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Steve Jobs Dies
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1.       si++
3785 posts
 06 Oct 2011 Thu 09:18 am

Steve Jobs, the mastermind behind Apple´s iPhone, iPad, iPod, iMac and iTunes, has died, Apple said. Jobs was 56.

"We are deeply saddened to announce that Steve Jobs passed away today," read a statement by Apple´s board of directors. "Steve´s brilliance, passion and energy were the source of countless innovations that enrich and improve all of our lives. The world is immeasurably better because of Steve. His greatest love was for his wife, Laurene, and his family. Our hearts go out to them and to all who were touched by his extraordinary gifts."

The homepage of Apple´s website this evening switched to a full-page image of Jobs with the text, "Steve Jobs 1955-2011."

Clicking on the image revealed the additional text: "Apple has lost a visionary and creative genius, and the world has lost an amazing human being. Those of us who have been fortunate enough to know and work with Steve have lost a dear friend and an inspiring mentor. Steve leaves behind a company that only he could have built, and his spirit will forever be the foundation of Apple."

Jobs co-founded Apple Computer in 1976 and, with his childhood friend Steve Wozniak, marketed what was considered the world´s first personal computer, the Apple II.

Shortly after learning of Jobs´ death, Wozniak told ABC News, "I´m shocked and disturbed."

Industry watchers called him a master innovator -- perhaps on a par with Thomas Edison -- changing the worlds of computing, recorded music and communications.

 

From: http://gma.yahoo.com/steve-jobs-dies-apple-chief-created-personal-computer-231337236.html

2.       lemon
1374 posts
 06 Oct 2011 Thu 01:21 pm

somewhere I read a comment that Jobs had all the treatment money could buy. Death is greater than money. and God is greater than death.

 

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3.       si++
3785 posts
 07 Oct 2011 Fri 08:40 pm

 

Quoting lemon

somewhere I read a comment that Jobs had all the treatment money could buy. Death is greater than money. and God is greater than death.

 

 

The life starts with zero,ends in zero, all remains is few moments.

4.       Abla
3647 posts
 08 Oct 2011 Sat 02:17 pm


Steve Jobs is very fast turning into a legend. He will be like John Lennon or Che Guevara but representing this own era. He died early enough while his star was still shining bright.


 


For most people, its not the professional achievements that make him special. The first days after Jobs’s death show that it is more about his life style and personality. After religion has lost its attractivity people are constantly looking for someone who can say how to live this life and  -  even more desperately  -  how to cope with the thought of dying. Jobs succeeded in giving the impression that he was this man. I do not underestimate it: it is probably the hardest lesson we have as human beings. What makes his wisdom more valuable is the fact that he was very successful in this life in a way that is admired by every one. In addition, sorry if I am being bigoted, this kind of hidden knowledge is not often to be expected from those who work in the field of technology.


 


In the end every one is alone with these thoughts. So was Jobs, and what is said in front of the whole world is not necessarily the same that a dying person feels in the quiet early morning hours.

5.       alameda
3499 posts
 09 Oct 2011 Sun 06:40 pm

I would disagree, the things, actions you effected remain. The deeds you did will continue to grow or be diffused into and absorbed into the universe. We all have an impact, some are more dramatic and visible than others. 

The music, the designs, the architecture are only a few of what remains after the passing from this life. I still smile when seeing some of the I love Lucy episodes and I find humor in life situations because of those skits.... and I gaze with wonder at some of the works of great artists....

Quoting si++

The life starts with zero,ends in zero, all remains is few moments.

 

 

6.       si++
3785 posts
 09 Oct 2011 Sun 08:36 pm

 

Quoting alameda

Quoting si++

The life starts with zero,ends in zero, all remains is few moments.

I would disagree, the things, actions you effected remain. The deeds you did will continue to grow or be diffused into and absorbed into the universe. We all have an impact, some are more dramatic and visible than others. 

The music, the designs, the architecture are only a few of what remains after the passing from this life. I still smile when seeing some of the I love Lucy episodes and I find humor in life situations because of those skits.... and I gaze with wonder at some of the works of great artists....

 

 

 

Still I don´t get how you disagree about the few moment that remains. Or is it zero part?

7.       alameda
3499 posts
 10 Oct 2011 Mon 07:41 pm

Dear si++,

We are getting into a discussion of what is. From my perspective, I see zero as meaning "nothing". Nothing is all but impossible to find. Where is nothing? Everything is filled with something. As humans we come in with a "blank slate" so to speak, but we still come with inate capabilities and attributes which can be enhanced or diminished during our lifetime.

When I say I disagree with the statement that we enter with nothing and leave with nothing, I mean we do not come with nothing and we certainly do not leave with nothing. If one does not consider the spiritual, ethereal as something, it is possible to think there is nothing. Even if one is an aethiest, the realm of the ethereal it is undeniable. 

 

Quoting si++

 

 

Still I don´t get how you disagree about the few moment that remains. Or is it zero part?

 

 

8.       si++
3785 posts
 11 Oct 2011 Tue 06:03 pm

 

Quoting alameda

Dear si++,

We are getting into a discussion of what is. From my perspective, I see zero as meaning "nothing". Nothing is all but impossible to find. Where is nothing? Everything is filled with something. As humans we come in with a "blank slate" so to speak, but we still come with inate capabilities and attributes which can be enhanced or diminished during our lifetime.

When I say I disagree with the statement that we enter with nothing and leave with nothing, I mean we do not come with nothing and we certainly do not leave with nothing. If one does not consider the spiritual, ethereal as something, it is possible to think there is nothing. Even if one is an aethiest, the realm of the ethereal it is undeniable. 

 

 

 

 

Dear alameda,

 

I certainly did not mean that we come with nothing and leave with nothing. I meant something like we come (out) from nothing and go to nothing. Much like "we don´t exist until some point in time and will not exist after some point in time".

 

You might say we will leave some traces of us that will exist after we die. OK but they will come to an end at some point in time as well.

 

The late Barış Manço would say "we will only die when nobody knows/remembers what we have left in this World".

9.       lemon
1374 posts
 12 Oct 2011 Wed 02:58 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

 

Dear alameda,

 

I certainly did not mean that we come with nothing and leave with nothing. I meant something like we come (out) from nothing and go to nothing. Much like "we don´t exist until some point in time and will not exist after some point in time".

 

You might say we will leave some traces of us that will exist after we die. OK but they will come to an end at some point in time as well.

 

The late Barış Manço would say "we will only die when nobody knows/remembers what we have left in this World".

 

How sad that you come from nothing and go into nothing! Then it means you are nothing or nothingness!

Even the construction of such statement is ilogic. There cannot be a thing that can be made of nothing. Everything is made of something. Even your thoughts and ideas are made in your brain.

So what that you leave your prints in this world?  And a great contributio to this world?

(26) For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?  

Mathew 16.

What can Jobs give in exchange of his soul when he stands before God?


10.       si++
3785 posts
 12 Oct 2011 Wed 03:49 pm

I love the way this thread goes starting from what "zero" means.

 

Here are some more definitions:

  • In set theory, 0 is the cardinality of the empty set: if one does not have any apples, then one has 0 apples. In fact, in certain axiomatic developments of mathematics from set theory, 0 is defined to be the empty set. When this is done, the empty set is the Von Neumann cardinal assignment for a set with no elements, which is the empty set. The cardinality function, applied to the empty set, returns the empty set as a value, thereby assigning it 0 elements.
  • Also in set theory, 0 is the lowest ordinal number, corresponding to the empty set viewed as a well-ordered set.
  • In propositional logic, 0 may be used to denote the truth value false.
  • In abstract algebra, 0 is commonly used to denote a zero element, which is a neutral element for addition (if defined on the structure under consideration) and an absorbing element for multiplication (if defined).

 

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