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kaç tane ve ne kadar - Lütfen bana yardım
1.       hma1962
10 posts
 13 Sep 2012 Thu 11:36 pm

when I use kaç tane or ne kadar?  is there a rule or only practice

for example:

süt - gazete - bira sigara - ekmek  elma - şeker

how can I decıde whıce expressıon to use

thanks ın advance 

2.       nifrtity
1806 posts
 14 Sep 2012 Fri 12:10 am

 

Quoting hma1962

when I use kaç tane or ne kadar? is there a rule or only practice

for example:

süt - gazete - bira sigara - ekmek elma - şeker

how can I decıde whıce expressıon to use

thanks ın advance

 

Ne kadar? how much?

Kaç tane? How many

 

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3.       ikicihan
1127 posts
 14 Sep 2012 Fri 06:07 am

Ne kadar? how much?

Ne kadar süt istersiniz? Ne kadar süt lazım?
(You cannot use "kaç tane", you cannot count the milk. Yet you can still count the liters)

Kaç litre süt istersiniz? Kaç litre süt lazım?

 

(If you buy more than one newspaper) Hangi gazeteleri istersiniz?

Kaç paket sigara istersiniz? Kaç tane (referring to paket) sigara istersiniz?

Kaç ekmek istersiniz? (You can use "kaç tane ekmek istersiniz" but it is long and unnecesarry to use "tane" here)

Kaç kilo elma istersiniz? Kaç tane elma istersiniz? (Nobody sells single apple, prefer kilo!)

Ne kadar şeker lazım? Kaç kilo şeker arzu edersiniz? ...istersiniz?

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4.       Abla
3647 posts
 14 Sep 2012 Fri 08:48 am

When talking about amounts, a numeral (and kaç respectively, I suppose) is rarely used alone. Either there is a noun or it is replaced (or accompanied) with tane. tane means ´grain´ but it can be used quite widely for small and big things. This example is from our own lessons:

 

                          - Buralarda bisiklet kiralayan bir dükkan var mı?

                          - Postanenin yanında bir tane olmalı.

 

(´Is there a shop hiring bicycles here? There should be one next to the post office.´ )

 

The meaning of tane is concrete. For instance

 

                            iki saat ´two hours´

                            iki tane saat ´two clocks´

 

The similar replacement for a person is kişi, for cattle, cabbages and onions baş.



Edited (9/14/2012) by Abla [Added translation. :)]

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5.       hma1962
10 posts
 14 Sep 2012 Fri 02:25 pm

çok teşekkür ederim

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