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Are Arabs getting smarter ?
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1.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 18 Sep 2012 Tue 09:43 am


Suudi Shura Konseyi uyesi Seyh Ibrahim Al-Buleihi:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG0CeResVB4&feature=share

Musl Biraderler ruhani lideri Seyh Yusuf Kardavi:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0K7A_V7XHQ&feature=related

2.       Abla
3648 posts
 18 Sep 2012 Tue 10:12 am

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Edited (9/18/2012) by Abla

3.       Aida krishan
92 posts
 18 Sep 2012 Tue 12:14 pm

No we are not, as there are enough smart people in the world !

btw are Turks using planes & trains which is made inTurkiya or by Turks ???

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4.       tunci
7149 posts
 18 Sep 2012 Tue 12:37 pm

 

It is not only Arabs, all the countries [african, latin american, asian ] that has to get the knowledge,inventions  from the west. And it is better to say " Are other countries started to notice that they need Scientific Revulation just like the West done ? " instead of  targeting just Arabs.

 

 

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5.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 18 Sep 2012 Tue 12:52 pm

 

Quoting Aida krishan

No we are not, as there are enough smart people in the world !

btw are Turks using planes & trains which is made inTurkiya or by Turks ???

 

Just consider the identities of the speakers.

Even you should be able to understand that some Arabs are getting smarter...

6.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 18 Sep 2012 Tue 12:57 pm

 

Quoting tunci

 

It is not only Arabs, all the countries [african, latin american, asian ] that has to get the knowledge,inventions  from the west. And it is better to say " Are other countries started to notice that they need Scientific Revulation just like the West done ? " instead of  targeting just Arabs.

 

 

 

The two videos show Arabs speaking their minds about Arabs, in totally civilized terms. They are obviously dissatisfied with the current state of Arabs.

Can this be called targeting Arabs ? 



Edited (9/18/2012) by AlphaF

7.       tunci
7149 posts
 18 Sep 2012 Tue 01:05 pm

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

 

Just consider the identities of the speakers.

Even you should be able to understand that some Arabs are getting smarter...

 

Can you not see that when you bring an issue with such title  into this web-site [who have many arab members who are willing to learn Turkish] will offend Arab learners ?

and wont they feel like as  as sort of "discriminating goal" behind this ?.

If you changed the title into a more general one such as  "Islamic world or East or other countries" , that wont be that offensive. Dont you think Alpha ?

 

 

 

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8.       tunci
7149 posts
 18 Sep 2012 Tue 01:12 pm

 

The problem is in the title " Are Arabs getting smarter" ? "

As if to say Arabs were not smart [stupid] but they started to getting smarter. Thats how they would understand.

If someone send a post saying " Are Turks getting smarter ? ", I am sorry but I would react that immidiately, and I would feel kind of humiliated.  That is the same thing.

This is my understanding.

Agree or not.

 

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9.       tunci
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 18 Sep 2012 Tue 01:22 pm

 

Atatürk also wanted us to face to the west. He wanted us to get the knowledge and the science from the west, He didnt want us to copy them as some people do nowadays in every field. [ some give English names to their business, some follow western traditons , some impose western way of life....etc]

Atatürk´s principal of Westernization was  parallel with his attemps of modernization and creating a modern state and society by doing radical transformations.

And His understanding of  westernization was based upon "akılcılık" [rationalism].

And "Akıl" is mentioned so many times in Kuran 75 verses [as far as I know] and also "düşün müyor musunuz ? [Are you not thinking ? ] mentioned in Quran so many time.

So Quran wants us to "use our brain" instead of fighting eachother. That is what West done long time ago, West used its brain and done reforms and inventions, they obeyed Quranic order in that sense. Thats why they are the fathers of  inventions.

So , follow the science instead of spiritual leaders. As for muslim believers they dont need any spiritual guidence as they have already a guide book [ Quran].

 



Edited (9/18/2012) by tunci

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10.       Aida krishan
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 18 Sep 2012 Tue 01:30 pm

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

 

Just consider the identities of the speakers.

Even you should be able to understand that some Arabs are getting smarter...

 Since you are the smart one, I believe that you should have known my ID...I said "no WE are not"...I don´t know much English , but what I know is that "we" refers to Arabs!!!

I am Arab, no matter the country...and I am proud. 

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