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Pope Innocent X
1.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 09 Oct 2012 Tue 11:37 am

Pope Innocent X did not make his fame in history by reforming church or Christianity. His major ambition was to kick Turks out of Europe, especially Austria. He is remembered by his efforts to unite European princes against Turks.


Europeans never forgot him. The constitution of the EUROPEAN UNION was signed in front of his statue, to commemorate  Pope´s unforgettable efforts and to show that Europe now stands behind his ideals.


http://biblelight.net/Tower-of-Babel.htm


Turks are also still around; half of them believe Europeans are slyly behind the terorist activities in Turkia and the other half is trying to join the European Union.


Funny, is it not ?



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2.       Abla
3648 posts
 09 Oct 2012 Tue 03:41 pm

And why should Turks have stayed in Austria, can you tell me that?

3.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 09 Oct 2012 Tue 03:44 pm

 

Quoting Abla

And why should Turks have stayed in Austria, can you tell me that?

 

I never said Turks shd have stayed in Austria...terrible food there !

My problem lies in not being able to figure out the second half of the Turks.

4.       Abla
3648 posts
 09 Oct 2012 Tue 03:52 pm

Quote:freedquaker

What Turkey would gain, among others are,

 

a) The institutional framework : The most outstanding component of being a developed nation is to have the right functional institutions in place. Turkey today is richer than Germany 20 years ago, but still not as developed mostly because of the missing institutions. EU is not the procurer for such institutions but an effective catalyst in building them.

 

b) Economic Integration and Stability : Most of the economic and political crises in Turkey have happened due to Political and economic instability. The Integration with Europe will alleviate all that to a minimum. It will not totally eliminate since some things depend on domestic issues (such as the Greek, Spanish, other crisis in Europe) yet will benefit Turkey immensely.

 

c) Free movement of people. Integration requires free movement of labor, capital, goods and services. Only the labor cannot freely move currently, which effectively isolates Turkey from much of the world. The elimination or ease in such barriers will only benefit Turkey.

 

other reasons can be added...

 

Maybe the other half can see these reasons. Capital moves anyway, why couldn´t people move as well?

 

Going Europe doesn´t have to mean going there as the conqueror. There are good examples of fruitful cooperation in the history of Ottomans.

 

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