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10.       Abla
3648 posts
 04 Nov 2012 Sun 02:56 pm

I wish you had written your comment in English og2009 because it is an interesting question and more people might like to share it.

 

My opinion is "How many languages do you speak?" is an empty question. You cannot estimate language skills with "how many" terms. No matter how many languages someone has once studied she probably speaks those which she regularly uses.

 

There was an interesting article in Helsingin Sanomat about language learning. The author said teaching many languages at school is waste of time. Most people never acchieve a level which could be of any use for them in life. And still so many people dream of mastering languages or regret not having done enough to learn.

 

There is one exception. English. Whether we like it or not it is the best tool available for international communication. I can hardly imagine a skill that would have been more useful in my life. I can compare it straight to reading and writing. No English word that I learn has ever been in vain.

 

Learning other languages widens one´s world but it all comes after English.

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11.       ikicihan
1127 posts
 05 Nov 2012 Mon 12:26 am

 

Learning other languages widens one´s world but it all comes after English.

 

Yes that is true for now if we think globally.

 

I realized that main communication language is changing from time to time and from geography to geography. the time here mostly exceeds the human lifetime, so dont worry

 

1 to 1.5 cencury ago, french was more common than english. it was replaced after WW2.

in middle ages arabic and persian was more efficient.

 

today in north africa, french is more useful than english. today in central asia, russian is more useful than english.

 

We dont know if english language will continue to be a global language for the next century.

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12.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 05 Nov 2012 Mon 12:48 am

 

Quoting ikicihan

 

 

Yes that is true for now if we think globally.

 

I realized that main communication language is changing from time to time and from geography to geography. the time here mostly exceeds the human lifetime, so dont worry

 

1 to 1.5 cencury ago, french was more common than english. it was replaced after WW2.

in middle ages arabic and persian was more efficient.

 

today in north africa, french is more useful than english. today in central asia, russian is more useful than english.

 

We dont know if english language will continue to be a global language for the next century.

Learning English is the second useful thing I have done in this life so far.

 

13.       ikicihan
1127 posts
 06 Nov 2012 Tue 06:48 am

 

Quoting gokuyum

 

Learning English is the second useful thing I have done in this life so far.

 

...i have ever done in my life.

ben olsam cümleyi böyle bitirirdim. yabancılar hep böyle kullanıyor.

 

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14.       og2009
409 posts
 07 Nov 2012 Wed 04:49 pm

I liked "ikicihan"s comment : very true, realistic and scientific.

And "abla"s comment is very pragmatic, not scientific.

15.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 08 Nov 2012 Thu 09:27 am

 

Quoting og2009

ANADİL VE YABANCI LİSAN ÖĞRENİMİ HAKKINDA BİR KAÇ SÖZ ve CEVAP/YORUM BEKLEYEN
BASİT BİR SORU

Bazı arkadaşlarımız vardır.Sizin de böyle bazı arkadaşlarınız vardır.Bu arkadaşlara
"Kaç tane lisan biliyorsunuz?" diye sorduğumuzda;

Ya da onlar, kamuoyuna hitaben bizzat kendilerinin yazdıkları CV´lerinde, internet sitelerinde ve kamuya açık yayınlarda cevapladıkları "Basic INFO"larında, Languages başlığının altına ekledikleri özel bilgilerde ya da kimlik bildirimlerinde:

Şöyle diyebilirler:

Anadilim (örneğin Türkçe, English, German, French, İtalian, Russian, Chinese, Japanese spanish, Portuguese etc) dışında Fransızca, İtalyanca, Almanca, Rusça ve Ispanyolca biliyorum.
Ayrıca Rusça, Çince ve Japonca´m da fena sayılmaz."

şeklinde harika bir cevap ile karşılaşabilirsiniz.Ben böyle konuşan çok arkadaş tanıdımŞüphesizsizler de öyledir.Bu cevap üzerine:

"Hoppala!" ya da "Wow!" ya da "Vay Canına!" diye bir ünlem çekersiniz.
Ve sonra da bu arkadaşın bir almış olduğu eğitime ve bir de yaşına başına bakarsınız!

Ne düşünürsünüz?

Bir insan genç yaşında ya da orta yaş çağında kendi anadili yanında bu kadar yabancı
lisanı nasıl, nerede ve ne zaman öğrenebilir ki?Ve anasdiline ve bu yabancı lisanlara nasıl hakim olabilir ki?
Yoksa bu arkadaşların biliyorum ya da fena sayılmaz dedikleri yabancı lisanlar, günlük
bir kaç klasik sohbet cümlelerinden ibaret midir?

Ve bu arkadaşlar kendi anadillerini ne düzeyde bilirler?

Bir insanın bu yoğun ve zorlu hayat içinde, dil uzmanı da olsa, bu kadar lisanı
öğrenebilmesi -okuması, yazması ve konuşması- sizce mümkün müdür?

Cevaplarsanız çok memnun olurum.Ben de, bilmediğim şeyleri böylece öğrenmiş olurum...

 

Sen hiç babası Rus, annesi Fransız, Ingiltere de büyümüş bir Ermeni ile tanıştın mı?

16.       og2009
409 posts
 08 Nov 2012 Thu 12:31 pm



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17.       og2009
409 posts
 18 Nov 2012 Sun 09:22 pm

Merhaba Abla,

May I ask:

-Are you LATINIST?

-or CYRILLIC expert?

- How many languages do you know?

 



Edited (11/18/2012) by og2009

18.       Abla
3648 posts
 18 Nov 2012 Sun 09:38 pm

Thank you for your attention, og2009, but I don´t think anyone is really interested in those things.

19.       Henry
2604 posts
 18 Nov 2012 Sun 10:34 pm

 

Quoting og2009

Merhaba Abla, how many languages do you know?

She knows at least Finnish, English, and a fair bit of Turkish, and how to be modest. {#emotions_dlg.flowers}

 

20.       og2009
409 posts
 19 Nov 2012 Mon 01:10 am

 

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