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20.       stumpy
638 posts
 10 Jan 2013 Thu 06:11 pm

sorry I´m still on the first page of this post, eventually I will catch up 

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21.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 10 Jan 2013 Thu 06:15 pm

 

Quoting stumpy

sorry I´m still on the first page of this post, eventually I will catch up 

 

Concentrate on posts, purely in Turkish....you will notice your improvement within the next few months...

{#emotions_dlg.alcoholics}

22.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 10 Jan 2013 Thu 06:21 pm

 

Quoting stumpy

sorry I´m still on the first page of this post, eventually I will catch up 

 

You dont need to.. Nothing important to read

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23.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 10 Jan 2013 Thu 06:43 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

These rules where created by the site owners.  I am only reminding you of the rules.  This site was designed with Turkish learners in mind and it is the reason for the sites very existance.  It is very difficult for learners to participate in forums that are all in Turkish.  When you post something that is complicated and all in Turkish you exclude a good number of members from a conversation.  Sorry if you feel insulted but it doesn´t change the fact that the rules where created to enhance communication between people not excude them.   

Elisabeth you may be right but don´t forget our native language is Turkish and we express ourselves better in Turkish especially when we talk about deep issues. I know we look like a Turkish cult in forum. But this is not our mistake. We learned English to understand you and you should learn Turkish if you want to understand us. You can´t limit us with only endless love letter translations and Turkish grammar issues. I prefer using English as much as possible but it takes so long time for me to express myself in English. So sometimes I write in Turkish. Maybe you can open another section in forum. Only Turkish section and so we would come to an agreement.

 

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24.       nevbahar
78 posts
 10 Jan 2013 Thu 06:57 pm

i want to write.. yuh.. below some posts.. is it allowed to use turkish exclamations??

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25.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 10 Jan 2013 Thu 06:58 pm

 

Quoting nevbahar

i want to write.. yuh.. below some posts.. is it allowed to use turkish exclamations??

 

I allow you

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26.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 10 Jan 2013 Thu 07:39 pm

 

. Ebû Ümâme’den nakledildiğine göre Rasûlullah şöyle buyurur “Allah, beni âlemlere rahmet olarak göndermiştir. Bana, çalgı aletlerini, mizmarları (kırma­mı ) , haçı ve câhiliye işlerini yok etmemi emretmiştir. Rabbim, izzeti üzerine şöyle yemin etmiştir: Herhangi bir kulum kasıtlı olarak bir yudum içki içmeye görsün, muhakkak onu kıyâmet günü af olunma­sı veya azab görmesi maksadıyla cehennemin kaynamış sularıyla sula­rım. Benden korkmaya görsün, muhakkak kıyâmet günü ona hayız kanından içiririm. Küçük bir çocuğa veya zayıf bir Müslümana su ver­memeye görsün, muhakkak kıyâmet günü af olunması veya azab gör­mesi maksadıyla onu cehennemin kaynamış sularıyla sularım.”[1]

 

I think we should discuss this hadith before criticising those academicians.



[1]         Tayâlisî, I, 338; İbn Hanbel, V, 257, 268; Humeydî, Müsned, II, 205; Mec- me‘u’z-zevâid, V, 69.

 



Edited (1/10/2013) by gokuyum

27.       vona
150 posts
 10 Jan 2013 Thu 07:47 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 

The rules are either for everybody to follow or for everybody to ignore. If you have rules you have to enforce them for everybody. Do not you? I wonder if some people have privileges others do not?     

28.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 10 Jan 2013 Thu 08:03 pm

 

Quoting vona

 

 

The rules are either for everybody to follow or for everybody to ignore. If you have rules you have to enforce them for everybody. Do not you? I wonder if some people have privileges others do not?     

What if rules suck?

 

29.       ikicihan
1127 posts
 10 Jan 2013 Thu 08:08 pm

some music allowed some are not allowed in religion shortly. details may be found in their sources. it is not our duty to extract halals and harams from the base sources cus we are not experts.

we have freedom to care or not to care about religious stuff. yet we are responsible for them in hereafter if it is exists. this forum is not the right place to discuss if music is haram or halal. if there is a need for this discussion i can forward you to some other discussion platforms.



Edited (1/10/2013) by ikicihan

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30.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 10 Jan 2013 Thu 11:01 pm

 

Quoting gokuyum

 

Elisabeth you may be right but don´t forget our native language is Turkish and we express ourselves better in Turkish especially when we talk about deep issues. I know we look like a Turkish cult in forum. But this is not our mistake. We learned English to understand you and you should learn Turkish if you want to understand us. You can´t limit us with only endless love letter translations and Turkish grammar issues. I prefer using English as much as possible but it takes so long time for me to express myself in English. So sometimes I write in Turkish. Maybe you can open another section in forum. Only Turkish section and so we would come to an agreement.

 

 

I understand your point...however...I am not saying not to post in Turkish but to post a brief summary (not even a word for word translation) in English so that EVERYONE can participate...not just the few people who are truely bilingual.  



Edited (1/10/2013) by Elisabeth

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