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1.       Yarvik364
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 28 Jan 2013 Mon 10:29 am

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Edited (7/23/2016) by Yarvik364

2.       si++
3785 posts
 28 Jan 2013 Mon 12:50 pm

 

Quoting Yarvik364

Example: Erkek çocuk merdivenden aşağıya iniyor.

erkek çocuk: nominative case (yalın)

merdivenden: ablative case (çıkma)

aşağıya: dative case (yönelme)

Analysis: The boy is descending toward the downward direction that leads away from the stairs.

Translation: The boy is going downstairs.

Such an analysis shows that Turkish is actually making things very clear using some kind of tautology strategy (one says nearly everything twice).

Correct?

 

You don´t say it twice always. In a clear context you may drop some parts:

((Erkek) çocuk) (merdivenden (aşağıya)) iniyor.

 

So there are many alternatives:

Erkek çocuk merdivenden aşağıya iniyor.

Çocuk merdivenden aşağıya iniyor.

Erkek çocuk aşağıya iniyor.

Erkek çocuk merdivenden iniyor.

Çocuk aşağıya iniyor.

Çocuk merdivenden iniyor.

Aşağıya iniyor.

Merdivenden iniyor.

İniyor.

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3.       Yarvik364
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 28 Jan 2013 Mon 02:48 pm

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Edited (7/23/2016) by Yarvik364

4.       si++
3785 posts
 28 Jan 2013 Mon 03:11 pm

 

Quoting Yarvik364

 

 

No one claims that you say things twice all the time.

 

Earlier you said:

"Such an analysis shows that Turkish is actually making things very clear using some kind of tautology strategy (one says nearly everything twice)."

 

I was simply referring to what you said. I believe "not always twice" and "nearly twice" are close things.

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5.       Yarvik364
162 posts
 29 Jan 2013 Tue 06:31 pm

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Edited (7/23/2016) by Yarvik364

6.       si++
3785 posts
 29 Jan 2013 Tue 08:04 pm

 

Quoting Yarvik364

 

 

Nearly belongs to everything, not to twice. Nearly twice is absolutely incorrect because twice is precisely two times.

 

Yes maybe in your perfect world but I believe it´s a fact in the real world. Just google "nearly twice".

 

Women are nearly twice as likely as men to have depression.


China´s smartphone market is growing so fast that it is expected to be nearly twice as large as the U.S. market this year.

 

etc.

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7.       Yarvik364
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 01 Feb 2013 Fri 08:20 am

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Edited (7/23/2016) by Yarvik364

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