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1.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 21 Jun 2013 Fri 01:16 pm

Okumak isteyebilecekler için DER SPIEGEL´den bir kolleksiyon...Ben okudum ve içimden "Allahtan Egemen Bağış bizim tarafta" dedim, yoksa halimiz haraptı ...{#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

 

RAMBO OF KASIMPASA
Erdogan´s Risky Response to the Revolt

By Daniel Steinvorth
Der Spiegel
June 18, 2013

ALINTI
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The giant mosque would be the largest in Istanbul, big enough to accommodate 30,000 believers. It would be positioned on Camlica Hill, the highest point in the city -- a striking, incomparable and everlasting structure.

The Turkish prime minister has been dreaming of this mosque for a long time. It´s one of his favorite projects. It doesn´t have a name yet, but it´s quite possible that it will be named after Recep Tayyip Erdogan. Like his favorite sultan, Suleiman the Magnificent, Erdogan likes to describe himself as a "builder."

Until three weeks ago, no one seemed able to hold him back, not from his construction mania, not from his egocentric approach to politics and not from his conservative ideas about educating the people.

But then something happened that struck at the core of the prime minister´s high-handedness: a youth uprising triggered by plans to demolish a deeply symbolic park. It led to comparisons between Istanbul in 2013 and Paris in 1968.

Suddenly the Gezi Park generation is refusing to simply comply with the government´s dictates. It wants a more open society, and it no longer wishes to be patronized, neither by Islamists nor by Kemalists. Its rage is directed against both the tedious social conservatism of the ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP) and the authoritarian Turkish state and its repressive police force.

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It is clear that the AKP has taken advantage of the boom to build a state in which it wields substantial control. The people in top positions in law enforcement and the judiciary serve at Erdogan´s pleasure, and as the reporting on the youth protests demonstrated, the government also largely controls the media. Contracts for major projects are awarded almost exclusively to pro-government developers. The lucrative new development planned for the Gezi Park site is also reportedly in the hands of a holding company in which Erdogan´s son-in-law is a board member.

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It´s possible to fathom the roots of the prime minister´s polarizing worldview. As the son of poor parents, Erdogan had to endure many insults. His adversaries tried to keep him down and intimidate him, and he was also thrown into prison and barred from politics.

Those adversaries were consistently members of the Kemalist class, who looked down on Erdogan, the strictly religious proletarian from Kasimpasa, a poor Istanbul neighborhood. His rise to the top echelons of politics was hard-fought. He had to learn to be aggressive and sometimes to rein himself in, but never to give up.

The clear distinction between "us" and "them" still plays a role today in Erdogan´s political campaigns. "We" are the oppressed, pious, ordinary people, while "they" are the oppressors and the decadent, often from abroad, the Europeans, the markets and the "interest rate lobby."

In Erdogan´s three terms, there have actually been periods in which things were going well between the prime minister and his opponents. Like Erdogan, many liberals wanted more democracy and less of a military state. But then Erdogan reverted to the old patterns of control, and it became clear that the kind of democracy he envisioned was more of a "controlled democracy." To legitimize it, he still invokes the threats posed by "them," even though many of "them" are in prison today.

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Abdullah Gül, the seemingly mild-mannered president, has said some astonishing things behind the premier´s back: that the government has understood the "message" of the street and that democracy isn´t just something that exists on election day. Nevertheless, Gül has had the chance to intervene in the escalating conflict and, so far, has done nothing.

The influential Gülen movement, which is led by Islamic scholar Fethullah Gülen and partly backed by President Gül himself, expressed its criticism more clearly. Through its mouthpiece, the daily newspaper Zaman, it accused the prime minister of having done "enormous damage" to the "national psyche." And Fehmi Koru, a pro-government journalist, pondered the establishment of an independent Gülen party in case the differences between the Gulenists and Erdogan intensified.

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Erdogan doesn´t want to spoil things with the Gulenists, fearing that they could work against him and prevent the man from Kasimpasa from fulfilling his lifelong dream of becoming president next year.

Under the AKP statutes, Erdogan, after serving three terms as prime minister, can no longer run as his party´s top candidate. This is precisely why he has strengthened the presidential system and introduced direct presidential elections, so that in 2014 the people will decide who becomes head of state. Erdogan wants to replace Gül.

But Gül has expressed his interest in serving another term as president. This leaves Erdogan with no option but to rewrite his own party statutes and run for prime minister a fourth time.

Erdogan has shown that he isn´t about to relinquish power anytime soon. He wants to see the day when he, as the leader of his people, dedicates the Camlica Mosque of Istanbul.
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Yazinin tamami:
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/protests-in-turkey-threaten-erdogans-political-future-a-906222.html

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Konuda Der Spiegel yorumlari arshivi:

Talking Turkey: Lessons from the Crucible of Taksim Square (06/18/2013)
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,906312,00.html

´Hateful´ Speech in Istanbul: Erdogan Throws Fuel on Flames (06/17/2013)
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,906118,00.html

´Everyone Is Afraid´: Erdogan Regime Cows Embattled Media (06/12/2013)
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,905164,00.html

Activists Killed in Paris Murders Jeopardize Turkish-Kurdish Peace Talks (01/11/2013)
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,877025,00.html

Revolt in Turkey: Erdogan´s Grip on Power Is Rapidly Weakening (06/03/2013)
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,903553,00.html

From the Archives: Interview with Turkish Opposition Leader (08/24/201
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,713511,00.html

From the Archives: Interview with Turkish President Gül (10/20/2008)
http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,585223,00.html

2.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 21 Jun 2013 Fri 01:33 pm

GUARDIAN´da yaynlanan bir makaleye verilen okuyucu yorumlarından biri. Adam olayı iyi çözmüş.

 

mozere

If Ataturk and young Turks had not existed Turkey would have been at best like Egypt and at worst like Afghanistan.Women would have been discouraged to attend schools whether turbaned or not. Ask Malama or the bombed out students of the Women´s University of Quetta.
Turkey would have signed the Sevres Treaty with Istanbul an international free city like Tangiers and Turkey a small nation covering Central Anatolia and the Black Sea coast.
Kemalists did not exactly throw Muslims to lions like the Romans,they merely wanted Religion confined to the private.Every body was free to practice Islam provided they did not do it in a in your face sort of way in public areas.From the article it seems like they were persecuted,I should know all 4 of my grandparents were deeply religious and they were not hounded by the state.
As to the legacy of the Ottoman Empire, all Turkey inherited was 10million malaria ridden, largelly illiterate souls, with no roads or factories,when it finally expired in 1922.

3.       burakk
309 posts
 21 Jun 2013 Fri 03:03 pm

i dont think turkey would have the luxury to keep its borders tact nor its original name kept like egypt or afghanistan. ottoman empire lost the war and was annihilated and thats it. if a new country didnt surface, that was going to be the end of the ottoman history.

 

people for some reason only want to see the cultural aspects of the new republic. they cant see the physical reality that ottoman empire literally lost the war to british and allies and not to Atatürk. and unlike germany it wasnt going to be spared its own integrity due to orientalism and colonism and whatever devlisih western barbarism.

 

4.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 21 Jun 2013 Fri 03:32 pm

Pasta, Burakk tarafından kesildiği şekli ile, Almanyanın tercihine sunulsa Almanya hangi parça veya parçalara talip olurdu ?

 

 

Almanyanın muhtemel ilk seçimi       ......................

Alomanyanın muhtemel ikinci seçimi  ......................

Başka bir cevap                            .....................

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