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Dative marking -a,e with repetitions
1.       tunci
7149 posts
 05 Jul 2013 Fri 02:07 pm

 

Dative marking  -a,e  with repetitions

 

 

Dative marking does also  form   repetitions  with nouns;

 

 

  Describes the state , the way the action is happening ;

 

 

  Noun   +   Repeating Noun  +  a [e]

 

 

     Nefes    nefes +  ---->  "out of breath". 

 

     [Breath   to  breath  ]

 

   Nefes  nefese  kalmak  --->  being  in a state of  " out of breath " [ to get out of breath], being breathless.

 

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    Kafa +   kafa + y + ---->  head to head 

 

     Kafa  kafaya  vermek  ---> This idiom refers to  an action of  a deep and serious  consulting or talk of  at least two people.[ put (our, their, etc.) heads together Informal to consult together ]

 

    Kafa  kafaya  vermiş konuşuyorlardı. ----> They both were talking and consulting each other so closely .  [ They were having deep and close talk ]

 

 

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   Diz   diz  +----> Diz  dize ---->   knee  to  knee [ sitting knee to knee] --> sitting so closely, friendly.

 

Ana  kız  diz dize  oturmuş  ne konuşuyorsunuz  ? ---> Hey mother and daughter , what are you talking about , sitting  together so closely. ? 

 

 

other  ex..;

 

göz  göze  -  eye to eye 

 

göz  göze  gelmek  - to catch eachother´s eye.

 

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arka arka + y  + a  ----> back to back,  one after another

 

Misafirler  arka  arkaya  geliyor [lar]. ---->  Guests are coming one after another.

 

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2.       tunci
7149 posts
 05 Jul 2013 Fri 07:54 pm

 

 

 

Gel de  Form

 

When we use "gel de " before a verb that is in  negative imperative form, we mean to say  "it is so hard to stop myself doing something  because of  ........ "

      " I desperately feel  to do it because of  it "

 

Gel de + Verb stem + mA

 

Geçen ayın kirasını ödememiş. Gel de kızma ! -->

I heard that  he didn´t pay last month´s rent . It´s so hard for me to not to be  mad at him because of what he has done.

 

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Yine nefret ettiğim  şeyi  yapmış.  Gel  de delirme.


Once again he/she  done the same thing that I hate . Its so  hard for me  not  to go mad about what he/she  has done.

 

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Hayatımda her şey kötü gidiyor. Gel de içme şimdi. 


Everything  in my life going bad. It´s so hard  not to drink now because of those bad things in my life. [since I am very sad]

[ I desperately feel  to drink because of those things,===> Its so hard to  resist drinking, since I am very sad ]

 

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Edited (7/5/2013) by tunci

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3.       tunci
7149 posts
 06 Jul 2013 Sat 12:54 am

 

-da[de]    as ´first, once ´

 

Another function -da is sort of ´first, once ´ in some contexts.

 

verb stem + eyim [ben]

               - no suffix for "you"

               - sIn [he,she , it]

               - elim [alım]

               -  In [in,un,ün]

               - sInlar  [sinler, sunlar,sünler ]

 

 

Bana yardım edebilir misin ?   ---->  Can you help me ?

Şu işi bitireyim de yardım ederim.  ---->   I´ll help you but let me finish this job first.

                                                                      Once I finish this job, I´ll help you.

 

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Buraya  gelsinler  de o zaman bakarız.

Let them come here  first, then we´ll  see.

 

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Çayımızı  içelim  de gideriz.  ---->

Let´s drink tea first we´ll go after that.

Once we finish drinking tea  [then] we´ll go.

 

 

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4.       tunci
7149 posts
 06 Jul 2013 Sat 07:23 pm

 

 

- Dative marking also makes  time adverbs when it is attached on to the time words.

 

 

 

 

Sabah =  morning

 

Sabah + a  ===>  Sabaha  ====>  In  the morning 

 

- Başım çok ağrıyor. ---->  I have a very bad headache.

 

-  Şu  ilacı  iç  sabaha  hiç bir şeyin  kalmaz. 

Take  this  medicine [tablet], you will be ok by [tomorrow] morning.

 

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Akşam =  evening

 

Akşam  +  a  ===> Akşama  ===>  this  evening 

 

Akşama   bize  gel.  ---->  Come to us this evening.

 

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Yarın   =  tomorrow

 

Yarın +  a   ===>   by tomorrow, tomorrow

 

Yarın bu işi  bitiririm. ===>  I would finish this job by tomorrow.

 

Dava   yarına  ertelendi.  ----> The case [court case] was postponed to tomorrow.

 

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Hafta  =  week

 

Hafta + y + a  ===> Haftaya   ==>  next week 

 

Haftaya   amcamgil  bize  geliyor  ===>  Next week my uncle and his family are coming to us.

 

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Bir  saat  +==>  Bir  saate  ===>   In  one  hour 

 

Bir  saate   geliyorum  ===>  I am coming  in  one  hour.

 

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Beş  dakika + y + a ====>  In  5 minutes 

 

Beş  dakikay dönerim.   ====>  I will be back in 5 minutes.

 

 



Edited (7/6/2013) by tunci
Edited (7/6/2013) by tunci

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5.       tunci
7149 posts
 07 Jul 2013 Sun 01:20 am

 

´ kadar ´  as  ----->   approximately, about  ´ 

 

 

The particle  "kadar" can be used to express  the approximation  in some contexts.

 

 

 Dün  5  kilometre  kadar  yürüdük. 

 

We  walked  about  5  kilometre  yesterday.

 

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Konferansa  50 kadar  öğrenci  katılacak.

 

About  50 students will attend the conference.

 

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 2  saat  kadar  ders  çalıştım.

 

I studied  about   2 hours.

 

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6.       tunci
7149 posts
 07 Jul 2013 Sun 06:21 pm

 

Dative  a [e]  may  also come  on to some  cliche expressions in place of  "demek".

 

Geçmiş  olsun --> May you get well soon.

 

 -  Hakan´a  geçmiş  olsun gittiler.   =   Geçmiş  olsun  demeye  gittiler. 

 

   They  went  to  Hakan  to say him [to wish him]  " get well soon " .

 

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-  Yeni  bir  araba almışsın.  Hayırlı  olsun geldim. 

 

  I heard that you  bought  a new car.  So  I came  to  say [wish] " congratulations [ may it be good for  you ]

 

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 -  Yarın  komşumuza  baş  sağlığın gideceğiz. 

We ´ll  go  to  our neighbour  tomorrow  to  say " Our condolences" to them.

 

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7.       tunci
7149 posts
 07 Jul 2013 Sun 07:50 pm

 

Dative  a [e] also used  when to refer  the price of  things. " FOR  the price of " 

 

 Çantayı  40 liray aldı.  

 She  bought  the bag  for the price of  40 liras.[ TL ]

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Evi   kaça   aldın  ? 

How much you bought this house  for  ?

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Telefonu  600  liraya  aldım.

I bought the phone for the price of  600 liras [TL]

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