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1.       Abla
3648 posts
 10 Jul 2013 Wed 05:06 pm

Allah is a proper name. But in Turkish it also has so many uses in conversational phrases and sayings (allah allah, allahtan, allahın aşkına, inşallah, maşallah, allaha emanet ol). What is the correct spelling of these phrases? Should we use the capital letter and the apostrophe in writing?

2.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 10 Jul 2013 Wed 05:13 pm

 

Quoting Abla

Allah is a proper name. But in Turkish it also has so many uses in conversational phrases and sayings (allah allah, allahtan, allahın aşkına, inşallah, maşallah, allaha emanet ol). What is the correct spelling of these phrases? Should we use the capital letter and the apostrophe in writing?

 

Allah Allah

Allah´tan

Allah aşkına

inşallah

maşallah

Allah´a emanet ol.

 

Writing "Allah" without capital letter is disrespectful. But you can write "inşallah" and "maşallah" without capital letter if the sentence doesn´t start with them.



Edited (7/10/2013) by gokuyum

3.       kashf-ul-eman
180 posts
 10 Jul 2013 Wed 05:22 pm

 

Quoting Abla

Allah is a proper name. But in Turkish it also has so many uses in conversational phrases and sayings (allah allah, allahtan, allahın aşkına, inşallah, maşallah, allaha emanet ol). What is the correct spelling of these phrases? Should we use the capital letter and the apostrophe in writing?

 

A very good question in fact my favorite one. So i would like to tell you ALLAH is the name of a lord of whole universe , as we all know.all the creatures including human being obey to him.It is necessary to write  the name of ALLAH in the capital letters. ALLAH is a proper name no doubt we should respect this name by heart.We should follow the QURAN for the proper pronounciation and properly to write the name "While using in conversation"

inşhallah is to be write as In sha ALLAH

maşallah is to be write as MashALLAH.

ALLAHa is to be write as ALLAH only.

ALLAH´s name must be in capital leters always.

While no apostroph is necessary to put. 

 

4.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 10 Jul 2013 Wed 05:27 pm

In Turkish I have never seen inşAllah or maşAllah. The grammar of the language doesn´t allow it.

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5.       kashf-ul-eman
180 posts
 10 Jul 2013 Wed 05:29 pm

 

Quoting gokuyum

In Turkish I have never seen inşAllah or maşAllah. The grammar of the language doesn´t allow it.

 

oh it means just because of grammer u will direspect the name ALLAH. strange !!

6.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 10 Jul 2013 Wed 05:39 pm

 

Quoting kashf-ul-eman

 

 

oh it means just because of grammer u will direspect the name ALLAH. strange !!

 

No it is not disrespectful when the way of writing is like that. Do you think all Turkish Muslims write it that way to disrespect Allah?



Edited (7/10/2013) by gokuyum

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7.       kashf-ul-eman
180 posts
 10 Jul 2013 Wed 05:42 pm

 

Quoting gokuyum

 

 

No it is not disrespectful when the way of writing is like that. Do you think all Turkish Muslims write it that way to disrespect Allah?

 

it Should be in capital letters by all means. you are not writing the name of any ordinary person . This is the name of ALLAH Almighty who is the master of every thing

8.       TheNemanja
116 posts
 10 Jul 2013 Wed 05:43 pm

 

Quoting kashf-ul-eman

 

 

oh it means just because of grammer u will direspect the name ALLAH. strange !!

 

grammar ... 

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9.       kashf-ul-eman
180 posts
 10 Jul 2013 Wed 05:46 pm

 

Quoting TheNemanja

 

 

grammar ... 

 

thank you nemanja for coorecting my mistake

10.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 10 Jul 2013 Wed 05:49 pm

 

Quoting kashf-ul-eman

 

 

it Should be in capital letters by all means. you are not writing the name of any ordinary person . This is the name of ALLAH Almighty who is the master of every thing

İnşallah is one word in Turkish. Turkish is different than Arabic. It is not disrespectful. If it was, Turkish Muslim scholars would object it.

 

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11.       kashf-ul-eman
180 posts
 10 Jul 2013 Wed 05:53 pm

 

Quoting gokuyum

 

İnşallah is one word in Turkish. Turkish is different than Arabic. It is not disrespectful. If it was, Turkish Muslim scholars would object it.

 

 

I don´t agree with this. in all the languages ALLAH is to be written as in capital form. i am not talking about only arabic aspects but for all the languages. it should be in capital form this is most respect full.

12.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 10 Jul 2013 Wed 05:57 pm

 

Quoting kashf-ul-eman

 

 

I don´t agree with this. in all the languages ALLAH is to be written as in capital form. i am not talking about only arabic aspects but for all the languages. it should be in capital form this is most respect full.

If you think that way I respect you. But dont blame people of being disrespectful to Allah. Because they don´t.

 

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13.       burakk
309 posts
 10 Jul 2013 Wed 06:00 pm

 allah

  Allah (Tanrı

  Allah aşkına

  allahlık

  allahsız

  Allahsız (Tanrısız)

  allahsızlık, -ğı

  Allahsızlık, -ğı (Tanrısızlık)

  Allah taksimi

  Allahualem

  Allahutaala

  Allah vergisi

  Allah yapısı

 

 

http://www.tdk.gov.tr/index.php?option=com_seslissozluk&arama=kelime&guid=TDK.GTS.51dd7c77156c38.82782206



Edited (7/10/2013) by burakk

14.       ikicihan
1127 posts
 10 Jul 2013 Wed 06:02 pm

In punctuation point of view it may or may not be disrespectful.
In religious point of view it is not disrespectful because no capital letter thing is exist either in arabic or in islam.

 

15.       kashf-ul-eman
180 posts
 10 Jul 2013 Wed 06:02 pm

 

Quoting gokuyum

 

If you think that way I respect you. But dont blame people of being disrespectful to Allah. Because they don´t.

 

i am not blamingthe people. i m just saying it is not good to write in that way for  such a great owner who is just one and one only.

 

16.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 10 Jul 2013 Wed 06:06 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cN46ffv5Jw4

 

Allah Allah Allah Allah bu nasıl sevmek 
Allah Allah Allah Allah bu nasıl gülmek 
Allah Allah Allah Allah bu nasıl sevmek 
Allah Allah Allah Allah bu nasıl gülmek 

17.       kashf-ul-eman
180 posts
 10 Jul 2013 Wed 06:07 pm

 

Quoting ikicihan

In punctuation point of view it may or may not be disrespectful.
In religious point of view it is not disrespectful because no capital letter thing is exist either in arabic or in islam.

 

 

don´t agree with you. requires further explanation.

18.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 10 Jul 2013 Wed 06:09 pm

 

Quoting ikicihan

In punctuation point of view it may or may not be disrespectful.
In religious point of view it is not disrespectful because no capital letter thing is exist either in arabic or in islam.

 

 

Yeah there are no capital letters in Arabic. They just write some letters differently in the beginning, in the middle and in the end of the word. But that doesn´t mean there are capital letters.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090508142322AAx9bpV

19.       kashf-ul-eman
180 posts
 10 Jul 2013 Wed 06:15 pm

 

Quoting gokuyum

 

 

Yeah there are no capital letters in Arabic. They just write some letters differently in the beginning, in the middle and in the end of the word. But that doesn´t mean there are capital letters.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090508142322AAx9bpV

 

you can´t understand !!

20.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 10 Jul 2013 Wed 06:19 pm

 

Quoting kashf-ul-eman

 

 

you can´t understand !!

 

I think you got your answer. Every language has different grammar. This is not about disrespecting Allah. Arabic language doesn´t even have capital letters. Do you think Arabs disrespect Allah too?

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21.       kashf-ul-eman
180 posts
 10 Jul 2013 Wed 06:27 pm

 

Quoting gokuyum

 

 

I think you got your answer. Every language has different grammar. This is not about disrespecting Allah. Arabic language doesn´t even have capital letters. Do you think Arabs disrespect Allah too?

 

The languages who have the capital and small letter system should write in Capital letter the name of ALLAH. if the "arabic" language had the small and capital letters the would deffinately write the name of ALLAH in capital letters instead the small. We should follow the respect rule instead the grammar rule.

22.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 10 Jul 2013 Wed 06:31 pm

Lâ havle ve lâ kuvvete illâ billâhil aliyyil azîm

 

23.       ikicihan
1127 posts
 10 Jul 2013 Wed 06:33 pm

 

Quoting kashf-ul-eman

 

don´t agree with you. requires further explanation.

 

Mesela yatarak veya ayaklarını uzatarak birisiyle konuşmak, birisini dinlemek türk kültüründe ayıp kabul edilir. Fakat islamda yatarak ibadet de edilir kuran da okunur veya dinlenir. Tüm bunlar islami bakış açısıyla ayıp kabul edilmez. Dinin kaynağı insanların koyduğu kurallar değildir. Bazen çelişiyormuş gibi görünür, bu durumda dinin kaynakları esas alınarak din hakkında konuşulur. “Onlar ki Allah’ı gâh ayakta divan durarak, gâh oturarak, gâh yanları üzere zikreder... (Âl-i İmran Suresi, 3/191)

 

Yani in english,

Having a conversation, listening to someone doing something important while lying on somewhere, in in bed etc. is disrespectful in turkish culture. However you can listen to quran, read it, make dzikr while lying on bed and all these are respectful activities in islam.

Who remember Allah while standing or sitting or [lying] on their sides and give thought to the creation of the heavens and the earth... (Surat ´Āli `Imrān, 3:191)

 

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24.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 10 Jul 2013 Wed 06:40 pm

 

Quoting gokuyum

Lâ havle ve lâ kuvvete illâ billâhil aliyyil azîm

 

 

By the way let me explain why I wrote this. When someone tests our patience, we say lâ havle. That is the beginning of this prayer. If you say this prayer Allah will give you power and patience.

25.       kashf-ul-eman
180 posts
 10 Jul 2013 Wed 06:41 pm

 

Quoting ikicihan

 

 

Mesela yatarak veya ayaklarını uzatarak birisiyle konuşmak, birisini dinlemek türk kültüründe ayıp kabul edilir. Fakat islamda yatarak ibadet de edilir kuran da okunur veya dinlenir. Tüm bunlar islami bakış açısıyla ayıp kabul edilmez. Dinin kaynağı insanların koyduğu kurallar değildir. Bazen çelişiyormuş gibi görünür, bu durumda dinin kaynakları esas alınarak din hakkında konuşulur. “Onlar ki Allah’ı gâh ayakta divan durarak, gâh oturarak, gâh yanları üzere zikreder... (Âl-i İmran Suresi, 3/191)

 

Yani in english,

Having a conversation, listening to someone doing something important while lying on somewhere, in in bed etc. is disrespectful in turkish culture. However you can listen to quran, read it, make dzikr while lying on bed and all these are respectful activities in islam.

Who remember Allah while standing or sitting or [lying] on their sides and give thought to the creation of the heavens and the earth... (Surat ´Āli `Imrān, 3:191)

 

 

one thing i want to ask you ikicihan. why we do wadu before offering prayer or reciting the Quran??

answer me. i know that but i want to hear from you for an authentic reply.



Edited (7/10/2013) by kashf-ul-eman

26.       Abla
3648 posts
 10 Jul 2013 Wed 06:56 pm

Quote: gokuyum

Allah Allah

Allah´tan

Allah aşkına

inşallah

maşallah

Allah´a emanet ol.

Understood. Thank you gokuyum.

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27.       ikicihan
1127 posts
 10 Jul 2013 Wed 07:03 pm

 

Quoting kashf-ul-eman

 

 

one thing i want to ask you ikicihan. why we do wadu before offering prayer or reciting the Quran??

answer me. i know that but i want to hear from you for an authentic reply.

 

Because it is Fard for salah and for touching the quran. No need to list religious proof sources here. Reciting it without wadu is okay.



Edited (7/10/2013) by ikicihan

28.       kashf-ul-eman
180 posts
 10 Jul 2013 Wed 07:08 pm

 

Quoting ikicihan

 

 

Because it is Fard for salah and for touching the quran. No need to list religious proof sources here. Reciting it without wadu is okay.

 

sorry you have lack of knowledge for this.if you don´t want then ok.

29.       Alizeh
24 posts
 10 Jul 2013 Wed 08:29 pm

İ dont think it matters to ALLAH the Almighty wether you write His name in capital letters or not. Because amaal ka daromadar niyet per hai. İt is NİYET ALLAH sees not the letters....

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30.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 11 Jul 2013 Thu 08:03 am

 

Quoting gokuyum

In Turkish I have never seen inşAllah or maşAllah. The grammar of the language doesn´t allow it.

 

Even Arabs can not write it as suggested...They have no capital letters in their alphabet...

Let us be rational.{#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

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