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90.       cynicmystic
567 posts
 19 Mar 2009 Thu 12:21 am

Valid points but cinimini still stands behind his post...

The op[ression of woman in the past six 5 thousand years may just be a phenomenon.

Maybe it will be men who will be oppressed and unequal in the next millenium...

Who knows... 

Quoting Daydreamer

I don´t know where Cinimini got the idea that women have always been oppressed and that feminism is based on this assumption. After all, there are still matriarchic cultures...Feminism is about equality so, logically, it applies to situations where women do not have an equal status. I have never heard any protests against lack of equality 25k years BC. It is about today and tomorrow, about how masculine and feminine roles will develop and co-exist about the mere suggestion that you can do what you´re good at regardless of what´s dangling between your legs or on your chest.

 

 

91.       femmeous
2642 posts
 19 Mar 2009 Thu 12:29 am

my two cents, there are no historical and archeological records and evidences that go that far as 25 thousands. end of story.

92.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 19 Mar 2009 Thu 12:35 am

 

Quoting cynicmystic

Valid points but cinimini still stands behind his post...

The op[ression of woman in the past six 5 thousand years may just be a phenomenon.

Maybe it will be men who will be oppressed and unequal in the next millenium...

Who knows... 

 

 

 

I think the word phenomenon is a euphemism, the last 2 thousand years have been definitely men´s years. Have a look at the social position of women, their role in deciding about themselves and their dependence on male relatives. Not too much luck

93.       femmeous
2642 posts
 19 Mar 2009 Thu 12:40 am

 

Quoting Daydreamer

 

 

I think the word phenomenon is a euphemism, the last 2 thousand years have been definitely men´s years. Have a look at the social position of women, their role in deciding about themselves and their dependence on male relatives. Not too much luck

 DD? What the hell!

the last 2000 only?

im disappointed.

 

94.       cynicmystic
567 posts
 19 Mar 2009 Thu 12:41 am

I think women in the west are doing quite well actually and the rest in the developing parts are on their way... Think about all that has been achieved in the work place, and the legal system pertaining to child alimony & divorce settlements, where some women, who have been married for less than 2 years get a settlement for more than 400,000 dollars per year...

I find the feminist ideology outdated... It has served its purpose. It is time to move on to post-feminism...

Quoting Daydreamer

 

 

I think the word phenomenon is a euphemism, the last 2 thousand years have been definitely men´s years. Have a look at the social position of women, their role in deciding about themselves and their dependence on male relatives. Not too much luck

 

 

95.       cynicmystic
567 posts
 19 Mar 2009 Thu 12:46 am

What exactly do you mean by "there are no archeological records that go back 25000 years"? Are you serious? Cmon... There are archeological recprds that go back 150000 years if not older...

You are really strange tonight femm... I can´t decide if you are just trying to pick on me as usual, or if you are being serious in your posts.

Quoting femmeous

my two cents, there are no historical and archeological records and evidences that go that far as 25 thousands. end of story.

 

 

96.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 19 Mar 2009 Thu 12:46 am

 

Quoting cynicmystic

I think women in the west are doing quite well actually and the rest in the developing parts are on their way... Think about all that has been achieved in the work place, and the legal system pertaining to child alimony & divorce settlements, where some women, who have been married for less than 2 years get a settlement for more than 400,000 dollars per year...

I find the feminist ideology outdated... It has served its purpose. It is time to move on to post-feminism...

 

 

You´re right that the situation has improved greatly and that women are doing better and better but I disagree that feminism is no longer necessary, there´s still a lot to be done and we still need somebody to make sure we won´t lose what we´ve been fighting for

 

97.       femmeous
2642 posts
 19 Mar 2009 Thu 12:50 am

 cynic, im repeating myself one more time, give me, the proof, give me the links. dont have them? stop replying. i wont google with my delicate fingers, since its you who claim so. if your next post wont contain anything to prove of what you claimed i wont be answering.

Quoting cynicmystic

What exactly do you mean by "there are no archeological records that go back 25000 years"? Are you serious? Cmon... There are archeological recprds that go back 150000 years if not older...

You are really strange tonight femm... I can´t decide if you are just trying to pick on me as usual, or if you are being serious in your posts.

 

 

 

 

98.       cynicmystic
567 posts
 19 Mar 2009 Thu 12:52 am

Wel, don´t be so sure about losing what has been gained...

Human history is filled with episodes of civility versus barbarity alternating non-stop... I blame human nature. One way or the other, one gender will dominate, changing positions. Men & women should have equal "legal" rights, but will they ever have "equal natures"? 

What attracts the two genders to each other are their polarity in almost everything...

Quoting Daydreamer

 

You´re right that the situation has improved greatly and that women are doing better and better but I disagree that feminism is no longer necessary, there´s still a lot to be done and we still need somebody to make sure we won´t lose what we´ve been fighting for

 

 

 

99.       cynicmystic
567 posts
 19 Mar 2009 Thu 12:56 am

When you take the time to post a lengthy response like I have, maybe then I will consider providing some links... So far, we haven´t heard your opinion about feminism at all...

Till then, it is you and your little fingers... 

Quoting femmeous

 cynic, im repeating myself one more time, give me, the proof, give me the links. dont have them? stop replying. i wont google with my delicate fingers, since its you who claim so. if your next post wont contain anything to prove of what you claimed i wont be answering.

 

 

 

 

100.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 19 Mar 2009 Thu 12:58 am

 

Quoting cynicmystic

Wel, don´t be so sure about losing what has been gained...

Human history is filled with episodes of civility versus barbarity alternating non-stop... I blame human nature. One way or the other, one gender will dominate, changing positions. Men & women should have equal "legal" rights, but will they ever have "equal natures"? 

What attracts the two genders to each other are their polarity in almost everything...

 

 

 

"Legal" rights is all I want. Sure the "natures" differ not only with regard to genders but also within each gender. I´ll let myslelf daydream a wee bit today and hope for a world with balance of genders, real equality not dominance of either of them

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