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10.       burakk
309 posts
 24 Aug 2013 Sat 11:15 pm

 

Quoting gokuyum

ler/lar is a personal ending here (for third person plural) So it must be always at the end. 

geliyordular

Also look at here: http://www.verbix.com/webverbix/go.php?D1=31&T1=gelmek

 

actually both works

 

Past Progressive, narrative

ben   geliyordum
sen   geliyordun
o     geliyordu
biz   geliyorduk
siz   geliyordunuz
onlar geliyordular; geliyorlardı

 

 

Örnek: Bir güzelin hayranı i-di-m>hayranıydım, hayranı idik>hayranıydık
Zeki idi>zekiydi
Ali imiş>Ali’ymiş,
Hasta ise>hastaysa,
Nöbetçi iken>nöbetçiyken,
Merhametli imişler>merhametliymişler
Merhametliler imiş>merhametlilermiş

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11.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 24 Aug 2013 Sat 11:18 pm

 

Quoting burakk

 

 

actually both works

 

Past Progressive, narrative

ben   geliyordum
sen   geliyordun
o     geliyordu
biz   geliyorduk
siz   geliyordunuz
onlar geliyordular; geliyorlardı

 

 

Örnek: Bir güzelin hayranı i-di-m>hayranıydım, hayranı idik>hayranıydık
Zeki idi>zekiydi
Ali imiş>Ali’ymiş,
Hasta ise>hastaysa,
Nöbetçi iken>nöbetçiyken,
Merhametli imişler>merhametliymişler
Merhametliler imiş>merhametlilermiş

 

Yeah it looks like both of them work but why only for third person plural? Only a misuse of suffix can explain it. This misuse became common in time I guess.



Edited (8/24/2013) by gokuyum

12.       Gölge
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 24 Aug 2013 Sat 11:38 pm

Ohhhh Allaha şükkür, my faith in my professor is restored! Thaaank you

13.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 24 Aug 2013 Sat 11:43 pm

 

Quoting Gölge

Ohhhh Allaha şükkür, my faith in my professor is restored! Thaaank you

 

Come on it is still a mistake

14.       burakk
309 posts
 24 Aug 2013 Sat 11:51 pm

 

Quoting gokuyum

 

 

Yeah it looks like both of them work but why only for third person plural? Only a misuse of suffix can explain it. This misuse become common in time I guess.

 

I think the reason is that in most Turkic accents in the past, personal suffixes came before ekfiil. But in Ottoman it always came after. So I think its a matter of accent.

 

But according to todays rules it should come final. So the professor and me are indeed wrong

 



Edited (8/24/2013) by burakk

15.       Gölge
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 25 Aug 2013 Sun 12:08 am

Well I am doing it his way on my exam

16.       Gölge
posts
 25 Aug 2013 Sun 12:11 am

Well my professor is seen as a big genius, so you can always contact him on youtube and let him know he is wrong I am not saying it.

17.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 25 Aug 2013 Sun 12:12 am

 

Quoting Gölge

Well I am doing it his way on my exam

 

I would certainly fail you

18.       Gölge
posts
 25 Aug 2013 Sun 12:13 am

Well my professor is seen as a big genius, so you can always contact him on youtube and let him know he is wrong I am not saying it.

19.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 25 Aug 2013 Sun 12:17 am

 

Quoting Gölge

Well my professor is seen as a big genius, so you can always contact him on youtube and let him know he is wrong I am not saying it.

There is a saying in Turkish " who knows a lot is also mistaken a lot"

 

20.       burakk
309 posts
 25 Aug 2013 Sun 12:20 am

 

Quoting Gölge

Well my professor is seen as a big genius, so you can always contact him on youtube and let him know he is wrong I am not saying it.

 

Whats his youtube?

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