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20.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 21 Sep 2013 Sat 09:18 pm

 

Quoting burakk

 

 

these are not reasons for defaming. these are excuses for anti-turkish, anti-Muslim policies. none other genocide-guilty country in the world receives this kind trash treatment and physical oppression. this genocide ideology caused the deaths of countless turkish people, used as an excuse for many things, from the support of pkk against turkey to the justification of mavi marmara, asala, khojali and many other crap. world is ready to kill the turk for the simpliest of excuses. world is ready to kill anyone for gas and oil, and even more ready to find a fitting "kılıf" for it. this has nothing to do with armenian genocide.

 

heres another example of this.

 

whining about armenian genocide is like this; you go into someones house with daggers and guns and start killing them, but one of the people in there manages to beat you up and then you run out of the house and sue that guy for beating you up.

 

and of course the gangs in the neighborhood who never liked that guy to begin with will side with you in everything, and the gangs that dont like you will side with that guy. dont look at the side-taking of these other people to make judgements.

 

I think you completely misunderstood the article.

This article I translated is about Hrant Dink!!.

But you trust me, no one is outside in a queue to kill Turks. And Hrant Dink was defininately not out to kill anybody.

Such a shame that Turkish racists killed him with the help of state deparments.

And this act is still supported..

The guy who wrote the article was right: Murderers are our boys. As long as people support them they will defame the entire country.

 

21.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 22 Sep 2013 Sun 12:18 pm

 

 

.. Beside the court didn´t excuse him for it and he was founded guilty because of it, right?

 

Just for the record:

charge under 301 was pressed for Dink´s article called "Getting to know Armenia" (February 13, 2004), in which he suggested to diaspora Armenians that it was time to rid themselves of their enmity against Turks, a condition he considered himself free of, keeping himself emotionally healthy while at the same time knowing something of discrimination. His statement, "replace the poisoned blood associated with the Turk, with fresh blood associated with Armenia"[44] resulted in a six-month suspended sentence.[13]

Dink defended himself vigorously against the charges:

    "This trial is based on a total misunderstanding," Dink told Reporters Without Borders. "I never meant to insult Turkish citizens. The term in question was taken out of context and is only symbolic. The real subject of the article is the Armenian diaspora who, once they have come to terms with the Turkish part of their identity, can seek new answers to their questions from independent Armenia.
..

In September, 2010, the European Court of Human Rights found that Turkish authorities have violated Dink´s freedom of speech (Article 10 ECHR) by criminal proceedings against him for alleged denigration of Turkish identity and in reality, for criticizing the state institutions´ denial of the view that the events of 1915 amounted to genocide.[51]

22.       si++
3785 posts
 22 Sep 2013 Sun 01:15 pm

As for using context, to spit out a nasty statement by decorating it somehow, take this example:

 

I would never ever say something like ".....´s are all bastards, all of them bloodthirsty animals, blah blah" because it would not be nice, right?

 

Now fill in the blank with the name of a nation you hate and you have managed to make a nasty statement about them by decorating it. Why would you do something like that? You say you wouldn´t say something like that and say it at the same time. Now is that intentional or what?

 

The court saw the bad intention there. Personally I did too.

 

You cannot say something like that and excuse yourself with the context thingy, right Agop?

23.       si++
3785 posts
 22 Sep 2013 Sun 01:19 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

In September, 2010, the European Court of Human Rights found that Turkish authorities have violated Dink´s freedom of speech (Article 10 ECHR) by criminal proceedings against him for alleged denigration of Turkish identity and in reality, for criticizing the state institutions´ denial of the view that the events of 1915 amounted to genocide.[51]

 

See Agop, you also do it.

 

You want to say 1915 events were gebocide. But you don´t say it directly instead you play your dirty tricks.

 

Well done, Agop! We can sense your intention.

24.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 23 Sep 2013 Mon 12:15 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

 

See Agop, you also do it.

 

You want to say 1915 events were gebocide. But you don´t say it directly instead you play your dirty tricks.

 

Well done, Agop! We can sense your intention.

 

So we dont have a Lady Armenian here...He is just an Agop !{#emotions_dlg.alcoholics}

 

25.       burakk
309 posts
 23 Sep 2013 Mon 01:07 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

I think you completely misunderstood the article.

This article I translated is about Hrant Dink!!.

But you trust me, no one is outside in a queue to kill Turks. And Hrant Dink was defininately not out to kill anybody.

Such a shame that Turkish racists killed him with the help of state deparments.

And this act is still supported..

The guy who wrote the article was right: Murderers are our boys. As long as people support them they will defame the entire country.

 

 

tens of innocent turkish people have been killed in germany. it was state supported too. did you whine about that? if you want to uphold your countrys honor and name you should pay attention to these first.

26.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 23 Sep 2013 Mon 01:32 pm

 

Quoting burakk

 

 

tens of innocent turkish people have been killed in germany. it was state supported too. did you whine about that? if you want to uphold your countrys honor and name you should pay attention to these first.

 

Of course I did..

I joined the protests about them. But the thing is that I have RIGHT to do that because I am protesting about the samething in my own country too. But you dont.

27.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 23 Sep 2013 Mon 01:35 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Of course I did..

I joined the protests about them. But the thing is that I have RIGHT to do that because I am protesting about the samething in my own country too. But you dont.

 

Millions here protested murder of Hrant Dink. That unfortunately did not bring him back.

Those who murdered Turkish diplomats were largely punished and stopped; that did not bring the diplomats back.

Murderers of Turks in Germany are now on trial; that will not bring them back either.



Edited (9/23/2013) by AlphaF

28.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 23 Sep 2013 Mon 01:38 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

 

See Agop, you also do it.

 

You want to say 1915 events were gebocide. But you don´t say it directly instead you play your dirty tricks.

 

Well done, Agop! We can sense your intention.

 

You got to be joking or not the sharpest knife in the draw to think that I can NOT say directly the things I want to say. 

But as far as your Agop goes.. It is like this:

In USA, a white police kills a black guy unlawfully and some whites protests this action too and you as the white person come along and call the white protestors as negros. Or in Germany neo nazis kills Turks and some Germans protest against the racism and neo nazis accuse German protestors being a Turk and call them with names like ´Mustafa´.

That is how racist your Agop thing is unfortunately. 

You are only here to show how racists some Turks are!! 

Well done!

 



Edited (9/23/2013) by thehandsom

29.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 23 Sep 2013 Mon 01:41 pm

Racist Agops only breed contra racists ! Nothing surprising in that..............{#emotions_dlg.alcoholics}

30.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 23 Sep 2013 Mon 01:45 pm

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

 

Millions here protested murder of Hrant Dink. That unfortunately did not bring him back.

Those who murdered Turkish diplomats were largely punished and stopped; that did not bring the diplomats back.

Murderers of Turks in Germany are now on trial; that will not bring them back either.

 

They may not bring them back but at least killers will be punished  as well as racism

BUT Murderers of Hrant Dink is NOT IN TRIAL.

We have to punish the murderers as well as the racism!!

But unfortunately as long as people out there still think an innocent person got murdered because of his beliefs and because he was an Ermanian still makes Turkey a place where state harbours the racism.


 

 

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