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How to save the world from spammers?
1.       tomac
975 posts
 11 Nov 2013 Mon 03:01 pm

Recent "spamming incidents" made me think about how we could solve this problem - what do you think about requring all new forum members to enter text shown in captcha? For people who have never heard about captchas, or who have seen them, but don´t recognize this term: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAPTCHA

Perhaps also some simple questions like "3 + 5 = ?" could also be useful?

It´s not ideal way, but maybe it will help a bit?

 

One disadvantage is that it will help only in cases when accounts are created automatically - if accounts are created manually by spammers then this solution won´t help in anything and will only make the registration process bit longer.



Edited (11/11/2013) by tomac
Edited (11/11/2013) by tomac
Edited (11/11/2013) by tomac

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2.       si++
3785 posts
 11 Nov 2013 Mon 03:52 pm

 

Quoting tomac

Recent "spamming incidents" made me think about how we could solve this problem - what do you think about requring all new forum members to enter text shown in captcha? For people who have never heard about captchas, or who have seen them, but don´t recognize this term: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAPTCHA

Perhaps also some simple questions like "3 + 5 = ?" could also be useful?

It´s not ideal way, but maybe it will help a bit?

 

One disadvantage is that it will help only in cases when accounts are created automatically - if accounts are created manually by spammers then this solution won´t help in anything and will only make the registration process bit longer.

Yes. Maybe in words "three plus five".

Or generate a random word and ask the human to enter 1st, 3rd and 5th (example) letters of it.

random word=random

1st, 3rd and 5th letters=rno

 

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3.       Kelowna
375 posts
 11 Nov 2013 Mon 06:26 pm

maybe if we had some administration staff that would come on more often to see who the new members are they would see that it is being abused. This is the recent list of new members........... do you think there is a problem going?

# User Name Last Activity Membership Start
1 ljdedseyroabt Oct 31 Oct 31
2 ljdedseyroaig Oct 30 Oct 30
3 ljdedseyroaoc Nov 06 Nov 06
4 ljdedseyrobdl Nov 01 Nov 01
5 ljdedseyrobjy Nov 05 Nov 05
6 ljdedseyrocwb Nov 06 Nov 06
7 ljdedseyroduh Nov 03 Nov 03
8 ljdedseyrofbl Nov 02 Nov 02
9 ljdedseyrofok Oct 30 Oct 30
10 ljdedseyrofxr 4:39 am 4:39 am
11 ljdedseyrogfy Nov 06 Nov 06
12 ljdedseyrohma Nov 08 Nov 08
13 ljdedseyrojex Oct 31 Oct 31
14 ljdedseyrojry Nov 02 Nov 02
15 ljdedseyrojun Nov 03 Nov 03
16 ljdedseyrokfy Nov 09 Nov 09
17 ljdedseyrokll Oct 30 Oct 30
18 ljdedseyrokpt Nov 07 Nov 07
19 ljdedseyrokwe Nov 05 Nov 05
20 ljdedseyrokwm 4:45 am 4:45 am
21 ljdedseyrolfk Nov 06 Nov 06
22 ljdedseyromql 4:24 am 4:24 am
23 ljdedseyromur Nov 06 Nov 06
24 ljdedseyromuy Nov 05 Nov 05
25 ljdedseyrorud Nov 10 Nov 10
26 ljdedseyroskf Nov 10 Nov 10
27 ljdedseyrosos 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
28 ljdedseyrosyr 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
29 ljdedseyrouco Nov 03 Nov 03
30 ljdedseyroudy Nov 08 Nov 08
# User Name Last Activity Membership Start
31 ljdedseyroupy 4:20 am 4:20 am
32 ljdedseyrowln Nov 02 Nov 02
33 ljdedseyrowvw Nov 08 Nov 08
34 ljdedseyrowwb Nov 07 Nov 07
35 ljdedseyroxev Nov 01 Nov 01
36 ljdedseyroyrg Nov 08 Nov 08
37 pasyaeraif Oct 30 Oct 30
38 pasyaerbnn Nov 09 Nov 09
39 pasyaerdjn 4:31 am 4:31 am
40 pasyaerfgp Nov 01 Nov 01
41 pasyaergca Nov 01 Nov 01
42 pasyaerhng Nov 03 Nov 03
43 pasyaerhoy Nov 09 Nov 09
44 pasyaerhqb Nov 09 Nov 09
45 pasyaeribf Nov 09 Nov 09
46 pasyaeriwc Nov 06 Nov 06
47 pasyaeriyn 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
48 pasyaerjex Nov 04 Nov 04
49 pasyaerjpn Nov 04 Nov 04
50 pasyaerkpu Nov 09 Nov 09
51 pasyaerlpj Nov 08 Nov 08
52 pasyaerlti Nov 01 Nov 01
53 pasyaerlxi Nov 10 Nov 10
54 pasyaermlp Nov 10 Nov 10
55 pasyaernnh Nov 09 Nov 09
56 pasyaernpi 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
57 pasyaerohv Oct 31 Oct 31
58 pasyaeroje Nov 05 Nov 05
59 pasyaerpch 4:40 am 4:40 am
61 pasyaerrhc Nov 09 Nov 09
62 pasyaerrlw Oct 31 Oct 31
63 pasyaershj Nov 04 Nov 04
64 pasyaertap Nov 09 Nov 09
65 pasyaertyt Nov 09 Nov 09
66 pasyaeruht Nov 02 Nov 02
67 pasyaerush Nov 10 Nov 10
68 pasyaeruuw Nov 04 Nov 04
69 pasyaervsd Nov 03 Nov 03
70 pasyaerwxm Nov 02 Nov 02
71 pasyaerwzt 4:45 am 4:45 am
72 pasyaerygm Nov 06 Nov 06
73 pasyaeryhu Oct 31 Oct 31
74 pasyaerzwn Nov 09 Nov 09


Edited (11/11/2013) by Kelowna

4.       tomac
975 posts
 11 Nov 2013 Mon 07:59 pm

Thanks Kelowna - user names are very similar to each other. That may mean that they are created automatically... or perhaps spammer just follows some rule or has some tool which generates names of consecutive users.

 

The problem is that noone can be 100% sure if user is a spammer until that user starts spamming. I think the point is to eliminate spammers as early as possible.

 

The only way to protect against "human spammers" (not spam-bots) which comes to my mind is moderation of messages sent by new users, until point when moderator decides that particular user is not a spammer. This however would put additional burden on moderators. Also, I think it could discourage new users from using the site, as this would naturally lengthen time required for them to wait for answer to their quiestion on forum.

5.       Kelowna
375 posts
 11 Nov 2013 Mon 08:12 pm

I agree something should be done to protect this site. I think if for every post you had to enter a captcha code  this would help to solve the problem also I think that if you join and have not ever posted that you should be eliminated if your account is not current in the past 6 months. You can alway sign up again if you chose to use the forums. I also think you should keep your membership somewhat current meaning taking a break from signing in for more than a year would again cause you to lose your username and be deleted from list.

6.       tomac
975 posts
 11 Nov 2013 Mon 09:39 pm

I think that having to enter captcha before sending every post would be too annoying for forum members - especially during heated discussions. Cooling these discussions down using captcha wouldn´t be good thing in my opinion

Another solution that came to my mind was to force new users to enter captcha before their every post until moderator decides that this user is not a spammer, although that, again, wouldn´t help much in case of "human spammers".



Edited (11/11/2013) by tomac

7.       Kelowna
375 posts
 11 Nov 2013 Mon 10:25 pm

 

Quoting tomac

I think that having to enter captcha before sending every post would be too annoying for forum members - especially during heated discussions. Cooling these discussions down using captcha wouldn´t be good thing in my opinion

 

 

it would be annoying but you would also think before you post it would give a chance for a cool off period.

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