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1.       am_1010
246 posts
 11 Apr 2014 Fri 05:04 pm

When you want to ask "Why?" in Turkish, is there a difference between saying "Neden?" or "Niye?"?

2.       KediNero
418 posts
 11 Apr 2014 Fri 05:09 pm

 

Quoting am_1010

When you want to ask "Why?" in Turkish, is there a difference between saying "Neden?" or "Niye?"?

There is no difference between them. 

Neden, niçin, niye...they are all of same meaning

 

 

 

3.       olphon
106 posts
 12 Apr 2014 Sat 03:44 pm

ANTS here, the altruistic native Turkish speaker,

With unnecessary explanations...

 

Neden = Ne + den = From what  (From what is this EFFECT taking its roots, reasons, CAUSES?)

Niçin = Ne + için = For what (used in english as well)

Niye = Ne + diye ~ So what (You did this, and this, so what? Why did you do that?)

 

You can see the connection between all three of them, right? They all kind of mean "why".

In English they all sound like they´d mean slightly different things but in Turkish, I can´t think of an example in which you cannot substitute one for another.

By the way, I haven´t read this in a book so it is not solid information but to a Turkish ear it is obvious.

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4.       si++
3785 posts
 12 Apr 2014 Sat 06:31 pm

 

Quoting olphon

ANTS here, the altruistic native Turkish speaker,

With unnecessary explanations...

 

Neden = Ne + den = From what  (From what is this EFFECT taking its roots, reasons, CAUSES?)

Niçin = Ne + için = For what (used in english as well)

Niye = Ne + diye ~ So what (You did this, and this, so what? Why did you do that?)

 

...

 

Well, it´s obviously

niye (neye) = to what (goal/purpose) = why

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5.       olphon
106 posts
 12 Apr 2014 Sat 07:28 pm

 





Well, it´s obviously


niye (neye) = to what (goal/purpose) = why





 


And all my life, I´ve believed "niye" was "ne diye".


Things make much more sense now!


si++ is right, people.

6.       si++
3785 posts
 12 Apr 2014 Sat 07:56 pm

 

Quoting olphon

 

 

And all my life, I´ve believed "niye" was "ne diye".
Things make much more sense now!
si++ is right, people.

 

I have a feeling that this sense of humour sounds familiar to me. Are you an old member with a new nickname?

7.       Abla
3647 posts
 12 Apr 2014 Sat 08:01 pm

Quote: si++

I have a feeling that this sense of humour sounds familiar to me. Are you an old member with a new nickname?

I think so too but let´s see.

8.       olphon
106 posts
 12 Apr 2014 Sat 08:13 pm

Are you an old member with a new nickname?

No I´m not.

You really must have missed that guy. Reminds me of Yılmaz Erdoğan´s "o da ekmek yerdi."

 



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9.       gokuyum
5049 posts
 13 Apr 2014 Sun 08:40 am

 

Quoting si++

 

 

I have a feeling that this sense of humour sounds familiar to me. Are you an old member with a new nickname?

I thought he was "handsome". But I guess he is not He impressed me with his explanations about Turkish grammar and he hasnt written anything yet about Armenian genocide

 

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10.       olphon
106 posts
 13 Apr 2014 Sun 09:31 am

The only reason I am not handsome is because I am very handsome. Very much above average. And speaking of Armenians, there´s this great etymological dictionary by an Armenian guy, which did not give any explanation for "niye". So I had to improvise.

http://nisanyansozluk.com/?k=niye&x=0&y=0

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