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Nobel price to Orhan Pamuk!!!
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30.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 13 Oct 2006 Fri 11:29 pm

another good thing about this prize is that;
foreign readers will see that a turkish author won it...
first of all they will buy and read all his books... and they will wonder and discover more about Turkish literature... about Yasar Kemal, Yahya Kemal Beyatlı, Halit Ziya etc...

31.       aenigma x
0 posts
 14 Oct 2006 Sat 12:10 am

Orhan Pamuk is unquestionably a popular and talented writer and it is good to see that the Nobel judges have not been swayed by political argument when awarding this prize. It is indeed a good thing for Turkey.

However...lets hope this man realises that this award is for his fictional novels and NOT for his self-awarded position as unofficial social commentator and ambassador for Turkish politics. If this award gives him more "voice" then maybe Turkey's celebrations will be short lived

32.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 14 Oct 2006 Sat 12:12 am

Quoting SuiGeneris:

another good thing about this prize is that;
foreign readers will see that a turkish author won it...
first of all they will buy and read all his books... and they will wonder and discover more about Turkish literature... about Yasar Kemal, Yahya Kemal Beyatlı, Halit Ziya etc...



I dont even feel like replying to all the previous politic posts (however I wanna give my support to Marzena..), so Ill just say I agree totally with SuiGeneris

I've read several books of Orhan Pamuk and I can honestly say that he has a brilliant brain for metaphors, paradoxes, chiasmes and many other ways to play wıth a language and make the meaning of your story longer. The stories itself are intruiging (however you type this ) and the way they are put majestical. No matter what kind of person he is, he is surely good at what he is doing!

33.       Lapinkulta
0 posts
 14 Oct 2006 Sat 12:31 am

people in EU always support turkish who has a opinion against to Turkey and Turkish people like orhan pamuk...He hasn t got a brain.if he has,he would be proud being a Turkish...

Turkish and Turkish Martyr's who were killed in the independence war of Turkey will never forgive him...He will live his life yourself with his award in solitude.

34.       aenigma x
0 posts
 14 Oct 2006 Sat 01:07 am

Quote:

QUOTE SOURCE=Lapinkulta]people in EU always support turkish who has a opinion against to Turkey and Turkish people like orhan pamuk...



Not true at all. Perhaps you didn't read my post above. I am sure I am not the only "person in the EU" who agrees with you?

35.       teaschip
3870 posts
 14 Oct 2006 Sat 01:40 am

Let me just say I am an avid reader, however I have never read any of Orhan's books. After seeing so many posts go back and forth only makes me want to go out and purchase one. Whether you admire him or not, you have supported the sell of another book for him. Thanks for a great post.

36.       erdinc
2151 posts
 14 Oct 2006 Sat 03:17 am

Here is a small Turkish text for our learners to practice. Let's see if you can spot the words "award for ethical weakness" in Turkish. It is part of an article of the Hurriyet Newspaper.

Oktay EKŞİ

http://hurarsiv.hurriyet.com.tr/goster/haber.aspx?id=5250333&yazarid=1

Quote:


Orhan Pamuk'un aldığı ödül evet çok önemlidir ama Pamuk'un bu ödülü almak için yaptığı "atraksiyon"ların unutulmadığı da bir gerçektir.
...
Orhan Pamuk'un bir romancı, bir edebiyatçı olarak değerini konunun uzmanları beyan etsinler. Sayın Pamuk'a Nobel ile birlikte ahlaki zafiyet ödülü de verilse iyi olurdu diye düşÃ¼nüyoruz.

37.       CANLI
5084 posts
 14 Oct 2006 Sat 04:55 am

İ guess i got it ?
İs it 'ahlaki zafiyet ödülü ' ?

Btw,good one

May i ask anyone who got the knowledge about that, what is the truth about that armenian thing ?pardon my ignorance

38.       CANLI
5084 posts
 14 Oct 2006 Sat 05:19 am

Quoting catwoman:


he's not nothingness to the nobel prize committe and the rest of the world.



İ don't know what is the truth about the armenian,Turk issue,but i know one thing,
The nobel prize committe is part of the world catwoman,and unfortunately,they judge same too,depending not only on his works,but also on political and religious reasons too !

İ can understand how do the Turk feel,cause we have ex experience in this matter too !

And at that time Nople prize wasn't joy to us as well !

39.       erdinc
2151 posts
 14 Oct 2006 Sat 07:36 am

Somebody asked me for information on this issue.

Here is some information In English:
http://www.kultur.gov.tr/EN/BelgeGoster.aspx?17A16AE30572D313AAF6AA849816B2EF3754CB9777885187

There are original documents from 1914 to 1920 (the time referring to fictional Armenian claims) on the following website. This is the official website of deperatment of government archieves:
http://www.devletarsivleri.gov.tr/kitap/

There are 88 scanned copies of original documents in pdf format. On these documents local authorities are reporting the incidents to the government.

Here is an example of scanned copy:
http://www.devletarsivleri.gov.tr/kitap/resim/991/1.PDF

Here is the Turkish version and English version:
http://www.devletarsivleri.gov.tr/kitap/belge/991/1.PDF

Quote:


Massacre of prisoners and Muslim population in the
nighborhood of Kars and Ardahan.
The number of Muslims committed to the guards of Armenians and massacred by them after being inflicted physical pains upon and struck by the butt of rifles reached 30.000; the Armenians serving in the Ottoman army were deserting and deliberately surrendering to Russians to disclose informations about the said army; Armenians from the Caucasus were first allowing to be taken prisoners by the Ottomans and afterwards evading and delivering to the Russians the intelligence they gathered.
19 R. 1333 (6. III. 1915)



We have nothing to hide on this issue.

40.       Elisa
0 posts
 14 Oct 2006 Sat 12:28 pm

For those who want to know more, here's an article from Wikipedia on the subject.

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