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dir dır.... what does it translate as?
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23 Sep 2006 Sat 12:15 pm |
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please can someone explain tome what the dir/dır means on the end of words, also how and when do you use it?
E.G bir kadındır
Thanks very much
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23 Sep 2006 Sat 12:22 pm |
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hi, i'll try to explain now
o kadindir - means she is a woman right???
dir - is smth like am,is, are in turkish....u use it when u say sentences like its rainy - hava yagmurludur, benim ismim guneldi - my name IS gunel....
did u understand???
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23 Sep 2006 Sat 12:23 pm |
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Quoting oreniyorum8: please can someone explain tome what the dir/dır means on the end of words, also how and when do you use it? |
-dir is the third person singular "to be" suffix.
It is often ommitted but can be included to aid meaning or add stress.
bir kadındır - she is a woman.
This lesson might help
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23 Sep 2006 Sat 12:28 pm |
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I still cant get a grasp of this even with your explainations, (which by the way thank you for)
I dont know when i can use it, can it be used with everything i say?
For example: simdi bir siyah gözüm vardır?
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23 Sep 2006 Sat 12:42 pm |
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In English we have a verb "to be" that is used to say that someone or something "is" something - noun or adjective. In Turkish, suffixes are used for the same purpose.
For example: zengin = rich
zengin-im = I am rich
zengin-sin = You (singular) are rich
zengin-dir = He/She/It is rich
zengin-iz = We are rich
zengin-siniz = You (plural) are rich
zengin-ler = They are rich
Usually the -dir suffix is ommitted but sometimes it has to be included to make the meaning clear. bir kadın could be translated as "a woman" or "she is a woman" so the -dir suffix is used here to make it clear which meaning is intended.
It can also be used with nouns such as:
Yeşil arabadır = It is a green car
Note there are four forms of the suffix to suit vowel harmony:
dir - dır - dür - dur
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23 Sep 2006 Sat 04:28 pm |
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I hope this will help you:
http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_6_5789
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12 Oct 2006 Thu 09:33 pm |
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Quoting oreniyorum8: please can someone explain tome what the dir/dır means on the end of words, also how and when do you use it?
E.G bir kadındır
Thanks very much |
I think it makes a word formal or informal
if written it is usually included but omitted when spoken because it means "is" and it is implied when taken in the context of the sentence.
kadın means "woman; married woman; lady; servant; female"
so bu bir kadındır means "this is a woman"
or bu bir kadın means "this a woman"
Bu bir kedi means "this a cat"
Bu bir kedidir means "this is a cat"
"Bu bir ev" veya "Bu bir evdir" are the same
Bu bir kedidegil "this not a cat" veya Bu bir kedidegildir "this is not a cat"
That is how i remember it, although it is not complete probably
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13 Oct 2006 Fri 12:51 am |
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Quoting normanb: Quoting oreniyorum8: please can someone explain tome what the dir/dır means on the end of words, also how and when do you use it?
E.G bir kadındır
Thanks very much |
I think it makes a word formal or informal
if written it is usually included but omitted when spoken because it means "is" and it is implied when taken in the context of the sentence.
kadın means "woman; married woman; lady; servant; female"
so bu bir kadındır means "this is a woman"
or bu bir kadın means "this a woman"
Bu bir kedi means "this a cat"
Bu bir kedidir means "this is a cat"
"Bu bir ev" veya "Bu bir evdir" are the same
Bu bir kedidegil "this not a cat" veya Bu bir kedidegildir "this is not a cat"
That is how i remember it, although it is not complete probably |
True in a case, false another.
Bu bir kedi also means "this is a cat."
Bu bir kadın also means "this is a woman"
I advice again:
http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_6_5789
Sofia's second question. Labelled B, look at my answer.
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13 Oct 2006 Fri 02:20 am |
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Quoting caliptrix: Quoting normanb: Quoting oreniyorum8: please can someone explain tome what the dir/dır means on the end of words, also how and when do you use it?
E.G bir kadındır
Thanks very much |
I think it makes a word formal or informal
if written it is usually included but omitted when spoken because it means "is" and it is implied when taken in the context of the sentence.
kadın means "woman; married woman; lady; servant; female"
so bu bir kadındır means "this is a woman"
or bu bir kadın means "this a woman"
Bu bir kedi means "this a cat"
Bu bir kedidir means "this is a cat"
"Bu bir ev" veya "Bu bir evdir" are the same
Bu bir kedidegil "this not a cat" veya Bu bir kedidegildir "this is not a cat"
That is how i remember it, although it is not complete probably |
True in a case, false another.
Bu bir kedi also means "this is a cat."
Bu bir kadın also means "this is a woman"
I advice again:
http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_6_5789
Sofia's second question. Labelled B, look at my answer. |
I do not follow that
it may be understood as such but it does not translate with an "is"
Bu bir kedi also means "this is a cat."
Bu bir kadın also means "this is a woman"
Unless I am missing something here where is the "is"?
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13 Oct 2006 Fri 02:45 am |
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This is rule, you can see it from the link which bod gave.
the third person may not have any suffixes.
First personal pronoun: I - ben:
Ben gidiyorum << the suffix: -um
Second personal pronoun: you - sen:
Sen gidiyorsun << the suffix -sun
Third personal pronoun: he/she/it - o
O gidiyor- << no suffix.
Another example:
Ben öğretmenim
Sen öğretmensin
O öğretmen-
Or
Uçabilirim
Uçabilirsin
Uçabilir << no suffix.
If you are writing for your newspaper, if you are a journalist, you may add in your text the -dır suffix for the verb to be, or if you read something from an excyclopedia, you can see -dır suffixes for the third person. Or if you like literature and poem, you may find some examples with -dır suffix. But excepts these conditionals, -dır is not used much.
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