Deli, may i say :u are great !!!!!! fantastic answer.

I dont make any propaganda ,it was an ideea which i wrote it down here ,we can express ourselfs so i v done it.
also u must consider that between pedophiles and homoxexuality is a big difference,the first one harm kids even if is made with "love" cos in many cases it is done by their own parents and i think this is the worst thing on earth and the second make harm just in case of a rape ,which it happens,but i am sure not in a big procentage.
i read ur post and i see how much anger u have inside of u ,may be also hate ,but i wonder if in one day ur child will say look mom i am gay ,what u will do? like in that tv show that a mother said is better to lie my relatives that my daughter died in a crash car accident instead of: she is lesbian?
if you cant accept them is ur problem ,they exist and they will exist with or without ur wish and here again i am talking abt homesexuality not the other which i see u always mix them in the same pot.

i Got the other day a turkish love song ,is from Sebnem Ferah and the name is ASK ,the love.
after i find out the translation i asked for a turkish cd and i realised that i never listen so nice and deep meaning love songs ever in my life.Now my colection is growing ,the only problem is that i dont know so much turkish to translate all of them.
here is Ask from Ferah

"Topraðýn Altýnda
Sarmaþ Dolaþ Köklerle
Baðlanmýþýz Birbirimize
Cennet Gibi Bir Yerlerde
Kader Varsa Benimki Bu Olsun
Aþk Masalsa Gerçek Olsun
Aþk
Baðlanmýþ Kökler Gibi
Hayat Veren Toprak Gibi
Tüm Anneler Gibi Güçlü Olsun
Camdan Sýzan Güneþ Gibi
Gökte Yýldýzlar Gibi
Dolu Hayatlar Gibi Sonsuz Olsun
Sonsuz Olsun
Topraðýn Üstünde
Yanyana Duran Çiceklerde
Sarýlmýþýz Birbirimize
Cennet Gibi Bir Yerlerde
Kader Varsa Benimki Bu Olsun
Aþk Masalsa Gerçek Olsun
Aþk
Baðlanmýþ Kökler Gibi
Hayat Veren Toprak Gibi
Tüm Anneler Gibi Güçlü Olsun
Camdan Sýzan Güneþ Gibi
Gökte Yýldýzlar Gibi
Dolu Hayatlar Gibi Sonsuz Olsun
Sonsuz Olsun..."

i think is something like this,if someone can help and give the corect translation pls it will be very nice.
the love
"under the land,in a close embrace roots
we've tied to each other
in somewhere like in paradise.
if the destiny exists ,i wish is mine
if the love is the tale ,i wish it comes true.

like tied roots
like the land which gives lifes
like all the mothers to be strong
like the sun oazes
like the starts on the sky
like full lives to be forever ,forever.

over the land,with standing flowers next to the other,we hug eachother
in somewhere like the paradise
if destiny exists,i wish is mine
if the love is the tale ,i wish it comes true.

under the love,over the land
in my memories,at the dreams
THE LOVE

I read abt this topic and realise that someone dint read enough history in his or her life.
Gay people exist since a lot of time ,not 20 years ,not 100 ,not 1000,more then all of this.
if u just read abt the great armies of the antic world,lesbos island,poems which are real,no matter where and what religion,gay existed.
I will answer if you need to know ,yes in Turkey are lots of places for gay people ,and when i say gay here are inclued also the lesbians.
U can find places in Istanbul-most of them,Antalya for beach holidays,etc.
I am in Uk now ,in one day here was a tv show abt the gay muslim(abt some pakistan people
) and their life in Uk ,was sad to see what life they have even here ,where freedome is for each one of us.
A family found out abt their son and they forced him to pray to Alah to make him streight again!
A priest told that u must be stoned to death cos this is the punishment for beeing gay,and then i listen to that gay man.he asked priest ,pls tell me what is the punishment for adultery? priest answered is 100 beat,and what is the punishment for killing? god will forgive u my son....
"why shall i be stoned to death ?when at the end of the day ,i dint harm anyone ,or cheat ,or kill?"i am just gay
I dont know if anyone saw that tv show,it was a real documentary ,anyway i dont want to get into religion and be missunderstood,also i dint make any research to read abt the punishments to see if they are right or not.
Anyway i am sure that Turkey is more open to this subject and see with different eyes the situation.

heya,what u think about Sebnem Ferah,Sezen Aksu,Rafet el Roman,Yalin,Sertab?
i have a lot of turkish music ,i think is very nice ,starting with the traditional one and ending with the modern.
i like very much Yedy Karanfil,i think is fantastic his music.
Who wants music i can send ,it will be my pleasure.

since one year i have my relation and is very hard i know ,but we will not give up!