They do not want to isolate themselves....

It would be unfair if other ladies of the world miss the chance to experience the company of gloriously divine and holy Saudi men.

They only want to isolate their girls;  for the ladies´ own good, of course. 

 This mean they want to keep themselves out from the rest of the world...where exactly in Koran is written that women shouldnt have the right to drive? They need an  Ataturk

He´s already explained that it´s not written in Koran but results from concerns for road safety and crime rates. Appparently women are too precious to let them drive, work, show their faces, have money of their own. Basically, they should be kept at home, look after children, serve men and be thankful for it.

I´ve never been to Saudi Arabia, but I´d like to in order to see if it´s really like that. I cannot believe that all women accept that, I´m sure there are some who manage their own lives not asking men what to do. Or not?

Who knows? Turkey is islamic country but is so different...

Actually Turkey is a secular country with Muslim majority. But religion and the state are separated. Of course some citizens are more religious than others and that creates the illusion that Turkey as a whole is religious but it´s not true. Sure Islam, being the dominant religion does influence different aspects of life, but that´s not an overwhelming influence.

Saudi, on the other hand, is a country without religious minorities (almost) there are no Christian churches, converts are punished by death, a country where religious influence is so strong that less than 1% of women have higher education, many have none as apparently they don´t need it since they live to serve men. Our Saudi advocate said women are queens that do not have to do anything, but what kind of queen is deprived of free will and the right of making her own choices?

 Actually, one could say that religion and state aren´t seperated at all in Turkey. Religion and state are one, but in another sort of dimension: the religion (the Sunni Islam that is! which is important to know) is subject to the state and the state controls all forms of ´official religion´, such as education and giving the offices of important leading figures in islam such as imam. The imam actually is a state-official in Turkey! He is given his job by the state and is also paid from state money.

This seems a good system, but in fact it shows the close connection of Turkey with its religion and also shuts its eyes for other religions in Turkey. In the east for example, we have many Alevi families, who are more related to Shia Islam than Sunni Islam. However, in Turkish ´religious state system´, they simply do not exist. Same is for christians and jews. By saying ´non-existent´, I dont mean that the Turkish state or people deny the existence of them, but there is no official body for their rights and duties, or a fund for their mosques or ´cem evleri´ or churches. If a state controls a certain religion (Sunni Islam in this case), at  the same time it supports that religion. Therefore it favours that one religion, and I believe ´secular´ (or even laicist for that matter) isnt the correct word for the turkish system, but that is just a matter of definition anyhow

The idea behind secularism in the Turkish case, is that when religion is controlled in an official way, the ´folk Islam´ will eventually become less important than the official state-Islam, and when Islam is taken out of public life but reduced to personal spheres, eventually ´people will become secularized´ as well. Unfortunately Im afraid that its quite the opposite.

i didnt excpect my reply will cause all of this >>>>>>>>

WHO told u that ladies in arab countries dont drive , in saudi it is only tradition that will change by time like u turk when u forgot  ur islamic tradition by time ..

iam driving since 3 years but when iam in need ..and when the time my father , brother or even my husband not home , ( with an excuse from one of them ) ......

plz TURK dont talk about things that u dont know the  its DETAILS  and the right details ....

i respect the islam becz it is  teaching us how respect men whether relatives or not ... we respect their right (men ) before our rights , thats we r happy in our life .....

dont try to ignore the nature of women( at the same time nature of the life ) belonging to the men .

who would not be happy to be treated like queens ....( drivers , money , clothes , travelling , studing ....so many things u didnt try as turk but the kurd i guss they do )

loudly : WE R MORE THAN HAPPY ....

wish u all luck ....sorry of my E

You sure have a big mouth, but no brains.....you definitely deserve what you are getting !

 I hope you do realize that is for the lucky people who have money.

And it is shocking how women get brainwashed and start to think men have more right than women.  It is in the nature of men and women that they are not THE SAME (eþit deðiller), after all the bodily and mental features are totally different and therefor men and women usualyl are more suitable for different jobs. However, being DÝFFERENT, doesn´t mean that you aren´t equal when it comes to rights and worths! (eþit deðerinde!).

To think that a man´s rights go before the woman´s rights, is just sick and a way of thinking that is laid upon you from birth. You think this way because you have never experienced otherwise and are told that this is the only and right way. Ofcourse, that counts for me as well, I am also a child of Western thought. However, if there is a system where men have more rights than women, and both are happy (hard to believe, any woman who has a good brain-capacity will want more from life than being controlled by a man), and there is a system where men and women have the same rights and also both are happy, which one would you choose?

 And it is my personal conviction that the louder you scream, the less you are sure of what you are saying..

O M G

For the last words - turkish women DO experience these things.

When someone is not acceptable he/she begins to think being superior...