Hahaha

Dont worry canim, I didn´t forget you

I´m still waiting for your bikini pictures darling...

 Oh god .... here is Meltem

It was j..j..jj.jjjjust a joke Meltem!

Where... where is she? She was supposed to be on vacation!

 Ã couldnt agree more too,we have lots in common between us ´Egyptians´ and all mediterraneans.

You could feel you have good understanding for the way they think,believes and the way their brains works .. as if you are reading them .

Although i had some experience not a long time ago.

Ý have a greek friend,he is  cool and nice ,he wanted to interduce me to one of his friends,so i met her in another forum at the chat there,we used to see each other there before

He taught me how to greet in greek

Once i started and said hello,it was like a storm coming to my way...and as you may know ´if you are familiar with mediterraneans´ its not easy to stop them once they start hee hee

She was actully attacking me,fighting out of the blue !

Her problem was....she thought i was a Turk !

Ý dont know how did she suspect it,but that was it,started accusing me of being murderer...and many others.

Of course,i was replying in English and my friend translated what i said at first,that i could also say same about her just for being greek if i want...etc and it was almost a fight between us and havent ended untill my friend took over and explained that im not Turk but im Egyptian

she apologized,and was being over friendly too...but it was too late ,it wasnt enough for me,i said and what if im Turk?!

Needless to say,that i made my friend pay for that later 

The point...she didnt even know me...but she judged,attacked me just for being a Turk,and didnt stopped untill she knew otherwise!

If we had some kind of pact against UK our immigration would behave with them exactly as they do with us at there in the passport control and also in the streets.

   People who started this forum talked about the similarities and I showed the differences. I am not telling that they should be united or separated (greeks and turks) and by the way, the problems coz of Brazil was world champion 5 times and Argentinians are envious coz they won just 2 and the first one was stolen, really isnt a reason to quarrel at all, since we never had any 400 years of domination between each other and  althought we are neighborns, the differences are bigger than the similarities ( by the way I honestly today admite more the argentinian football then brazilian one since they dont have lots or dirtiness in the time to convoke players - just calling the ones who are patrocinated by Nike - and their matches are better to watch since they are tatically obedients and more intelligent than brazilian ones to play), but actually this isnt my point in here, the same way as I am not attacking UK as well, but people think that tell the truth is a attack or being rude and abusive, foreigners arent deported from the airport in here or another 3rd  world country when they have the documents necessary to enter just coz the policeguy at the immigration control didnt go with their face and just decide for it himself as they do in Spain and mainly in UK (observe that before leaving our countries we must pay for the visa and apply  months before go, but if you look at spanish or british embassy sites they say clearly that even if they give you a visa, its not garanteed that when you reach there they will let you get in, even in Greece it wasnt different at immigration control,they search for drugs in our luggage and make us show money to them and make the same questions thousands of times if your passport doesnt belongs to EU, completely different from here where you are received with a smile and a welcome and no questions or luggage check. But what I am trying to say is that people generally likes to discuss about polemic topics without have any vivence on it, most of people who wrote their opinion here never have been in Greece. Actually I must admit that my first week in there as tourist was amazing coz they was behaving different. After you start to live there, things run to see different... the same about everywhere in the world. Of course that you will find bad points everywhere... but I think it will be useless keeping such discussion since we will not reach any solution and things wont change. Some Greek people I met in my country says that they saw their grandfathers of fathers being murdered for a turk soldier in front of their eyes and this is why they hate turks... some greeks after living abroad for years came back to their land and was rejected for their own compatriots... they said that they couldnt keep living there and went back to Canada or another country they was living before.

I respect your opinion about UK immigration Lady_Metal, but have you considered what our solution is.

Every SINGLE day in the UK, 1,500 immigrants arrive.  Imagine what the figure would be if our immigration was less strict.

Whilst I appreciate our immigration is overly strict (and sometimes very unfair) - what is your solution?

 To treat every other human as a fellow human being????

 As I said above Merih, I agree with you that our immigration is very tough and overly harsh. 

My question was, what solution do you have?  Let all immigrants into the country until people fall into the sea?

 That´s what I said.. the problem is how they treat you, more than if they allow you in the country.  I did not face any problems until now, as I am Australian at the same time.  but even some of my Aussie friends, originally from Italy, or Spain, or Greece and who has a bit darker complexion than usual have been treated as suspects.. and that is ridiculous.  Who gives the right to these people they have a right to treat an other one badly, or humiliate them???

So I think the solution is very much behavioural...  I do not say, they should allow everyone in the country, as we face the same thing in Australia, but they can treat the others humanly.

The problem with trying to reason with you Lady-metal, is that essential you are rabid west hater.   Whatever is said, you will continue to hate us.

You hate everything about the UK and it´s greedy capitalism.  However, people like you are the very ones who want to come here and complain bitterly when you have problems getting a visa.

If you hate our country so much, the way it is run, our fair system of giving money to the poor and unemployed - why you want to come here so much?