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30.       libralady
5152 posts
 24 Oct 2009 Sat 07:38 pm

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

 

 

I`m always right! thanks for confirming this once again. Super cool

 

 

 Of course you are dear boy, I bet you are teachers pet and always top of the class!



Edited (10/24/2009) by libralady [typos!]

31.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 24 Oct 2009 Sat 08:23 pm

 

Quoting libralady

 

 

Edited (12:49 pm) by libralady [typos!]

 

I bet you weren`t so bright as a student. <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

32.       libralady
5152 posts
 24 Oct 2009 Sat 08:37 pm

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

 

I bet you weren`t so bright as a student. <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

 

 You are right again!  I left school at 16 because I had to WORK! You know what that is?? <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'>

33.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 25 Oct 2009 Sun 12:08 am

So there we go - Tami apparently objects to the term Muslim terrorists and decided to apply the term nazism to all Europeans/Americans lol

 

Ok, let´s see:

Muslim terrorist describes a person who resorts to acts of terror in the name of Allah - logically, the suicide bombers in Europe and the UK fit this definition, and so do all people who consider killing in the name of Allah

 

Christian nazi would have to be a Christian who believes in his race being superior to others (in Nazi Germany the Germanic race was considered superior to, say, Slavonic one, but we may take that neo-nazists evolved and simply believe that the white race is superior to others), being against democracy but  in favour of totalitarian regime, not to mention antisemitism. Hence it´s pretty hard to call all Europeans or even Americans Christian nazists as:

1. they´re pro democracy and against totalitarism

2. they prosecute racism

3. they prosecute antisemitism or any form of ethnical/racial/national discimination

 

This does not mean of course there are no Christian nazists in the evil west - there are organisations that call themselves neo-nazist and some of these are Christian (although most tend to be neo-pagan). The same way not all people from the east are Muslim terrorists - only those responsible for terrorist activity in the name of their idea of God. It is as simple as that.

 

If Tami is to continue arguing that the EU&American troops in the east are on a crusade and this makes them Christian nazists, he´s obviously and repeatedly wrong. It´s a war without the religious background and it´s not a nazi war as it was aimed at doing away with a totalitarian system and introducing democracy. Of course, it would be naive to say that it´s a war for a good cause and we know the big ideas politicians are feeding us with are just slogans, nobody is stupid enough to believe that democracy is the reason of this war. It´s more like a side-effect...

 

Tami, you seem very happy to have insulted people by calling them nazists, but what you don´t see is that you´re misusing this term. You should be aware that in Europe the term nazism brings Nazi Germany conotations, and most of us, Europeans, stem from families who were hit by the WWII. The thing is you apparently know nothing about nazism, how it hurt many different nations that you now wrongly call nazi. Trust me, as soon as self-declared Christians start terrorist attacks in the east, you´ll be free to call them terrorists. Still, it won´t make them nazists. You should learn the difference between war and terrorism, catch up on what makes a nazi, and stop posting nonsense ridiculing yourself

34.       TheJanissary
384 posts
 25 Oct 2009 Sun 12:29 am

Being closer to islamic countries doesnt mean turkey will be like them. Of course Turkey will improve relationships with islamic countries and others in Asia or Africa. To me, waiting in front of EU Gate will not give anything to Turkey, this will be just a sparing time for waiting when EU countries are doing Economical cooperations. EU membership is a DREAM for turkey and they may accept us when they need, but when they really need without any rights as other memebers.

 

it s meaningful that Europeans think Turkey is being closer to islamic countris, but western countries have economical relations more than us with them. in my opinion turkey has to change its face to east not west for improving economy.

35.       Rocco Siffredi
60 posts
 25 Oct 2009 Sun 01:02 am

 

Quoting TheJanissary

Being closer to islamic countries doesnt mean turkey will be like them. Of course Turkey will improve relationships with islamic countries and others in Asia or Africa. To me, waiting in front of EU Gate will not give anything to Turkey, this will be just a sparing time for waiting when EU countries are doing Economical cooperations. EU membership is a DREAM for turkey and they may accept us when they need, but when they really need without any rights as other memebers.

 

it s meaningful that Europeans think Turkey is being closer to islamic countris, but western countries have economical relations more than us with them. in my opinion turkey has to change its face to east not west for improving economy.

 

 That´s right. nice post.

36.       yakamozzz
398 posts
 25 Oct 2009 Sun 01:09 am

does fighting in forums make you people HAPPY? Unsure wouldn´t it be better to go back to LESSONS? i am still waiting for new exercises, coz all i found here - is finished...Alcoholicswhat ever makes you sleep at night..........but i would prefer learning the language, not how to offend each other...  ...make peace, not war? don´t worry, be happy? why is six afraid of seven...? - coz seven ate nine......................? do you people NEED to fight with each other? 

37.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 25 Oct 2009 Sun 01:26 am

Rocco - lol your input into the discussion was worth as much as you nick lol seems every time you have nothing to say, you resort to getting personal. How low is that? lol

 

Janissary - that´s a fair point, it´s pretty hard not to agree with it. It usually annoys me when people think of Turkey as an Islamic state, the part I have seen (just the western part) was very European, I can´t speak for the east as I haven´t been there.

 

Yakamozzz - enjoy your language forum

38.       yakamozzz
398 posts
 25 Oct 2009 Sun 01:33 am

 

Quoting Daydreamer

 

Yakamozzz - enjoy your language forum

 

what language forum? all smart people are busy here - throwing the first stone...and in "language forums" there are mostly only some pathetic requests for "dudu"-translations, all the exercises on the site are finished for me and i don´t see anybody creating new ones...what language forum? Unsure

39.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 25 Oct 2009 Sun 02:22 am

Yakamozz - it´s a free public forum where people do what they like - some like debating, other having fun, studying or doing the dudu translations going over "ozledim seni, seviyom seni, para bana yol" thing over and over again. You can´t blame people for being involved in debates rather than discussing the language.

40.       yakamozzz
398 posts
 25 Oct 2009 Sun 03:02 am

 

Quoting Daydreamer

Yakamozz - it´s a free public forum where people do what they like - some like debating, other having fun, studying or doing the dudu translations going over "ozledim seni, seviyom seni, para bana yol" thing over and over again. You can´t blame people for being involved in debates rather than discussing the language.

 

and who was blaming anobody? just - it´s all getting booooooriiiiiiiing, that´s all. and about a month ago i searched through all my account and didn´t even find any options for deleting my account. i´m bored. no exercises here left. that´s all.



Edited (1/4/2010) by yakamozzz

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