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Namus derdi bir derde benzemiyor
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05 May 2006 Fri 02:29 pm |
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Quoting Boop: What a world we live in - sometimes so hard to understand why and how such things can happen :-S |
It's a good thing you do not understand it. And if you are pure-hearted and logical, the harder you will try to understand such things, the less you will understand. So be glad you do not understand..
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05 May 2006 Fri 03:02 pm |
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Perhaps 'understand' was the wrong choice of word - maybe 'make sense of' would have been more explicit 
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05 May 2006 Fri 03:19 pm |
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Quoting Boop: Perhaps 'understand' was the wrong choice of word - maybe 'make sense of' would have been more explicit |
Hehe i'll still stick to what i said.. if those kinda things start to make sense to you, something really is going wrong in the world.
I wasn't trying to be pickin on ur words though  Just telling you not to feel sorry for not understanding/thinking it doesn't make sense
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05 May 2006 Fri 03:24 pm |
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I wasn't trying to be pickin on ur words though Just telling you not to feel sorry for not understanding/thinking it doesn't make sense
hmmmmmmmmm..... you have misunderstood my meaning - nevertheless - not to worry dear. 
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05 May 2006 Fri 03:26 pm |
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Quoting Boop: I wasn't trying to be pickin on ur words though Just telling you not to feel sorry for not understanding/thinking it doesn't make sense
hmmmmmmmmm..... you have misunderstood my meaning - nevertheless - not to worry dear. |
Damnit, that's the problem of not being a native English speaker 
I keep saying: one day.... 
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05 May 2006 Fri 03:39 pm |
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No problem
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05 May 2006 Fri 03:41 pm |
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Quoting erdinc:
Our İslamic party which is currently in charge instead fighting back to these traditions tried to intruduce a law for those young killers to reduce their very short jail sentences even more if the killing was a honor killing. They didn't succeed to pass through that law from our parliament but this clearly shows how Islamic politicians think on honor killings.
Unfortunately the extremist Islamic lifestyle consists of a life where brothers are killing their sisters and yet there are still so many supporters of these extremists in our country.
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Is it possible that such kind of party is currently in charge in Turkey!? Are they elected by free election?
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05 May 2006 Fri 05:42 pm |
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these murderers may call themselves as 'muslim' but when we search about islam and its background..these kind of nonsense things,to get revenge,to kill a human being even a harmless instects are strictly forbidden...
so, they are not muslim and i claim that they are also not a human being
especially uneducated,illeteral old parents suporting them.. (
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05 May 2006 Fri 06:19 pm |
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Quote: Is it possible that such kind of party is currently in charge in Turkey!? Are they elected by free election? |
Yes they were elected on free elections on 3 November 2002. They got 34% of total votes and they have 65% of the parliamentaries with these votes. It is tricky isn't it? All this is a result of playing with the election laws.
The reason why they got 34% of votes is not that these voters have choosen them because they are Islamic but because of corruption. The normal right wing parties ANAP and DYP are so corrupted nobody wanted to vote for them again.
ANAP and DYP were and still are full with bussinessmen who were keen on governmental funds. Some of these bussinessmen were owners of big banks. Sometimes the owner was a relative and not the parliamentary himself.
The banks were giving all the money they have collected from public as credits to their own companies and when the bank was bankrupt the government had to pay the money to account holders.
Unfortunately our justice department has been always extremely week. They got away with this, leaving us country in huge debts to foreign countries. We are still paying these debts and usually we are only paying the interest of these debts because they are so big. This is why the sallaries are so low and why education and health departments work so bad. The main reason is corruption, bad justice system and huge debts.
Currenty the Islamic party is not very bad on economics. They know very well that this is what people care. People care on the taxes and their salaries. Also they care for prices and inflation rate. There is improvement on all these economical indicators. While they are improving the economics they keep doing their own bussiness as well.
They are not very dangerous in short term but I think they are investing for the future when they will become stronger.
On the other hand the justice department remains still very weak. A bussinessmen who has tricked the state billions of dollars will get just a years sentence or two and no economical punishment at all.
We don't have economical punishmenst for economical crimes.
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05 May 2006 Fri 06:28 pm |
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Quoting ramayan: these murderers may call themselves as 'muslim' but when we search about islam and its background..these kind of nonsense things,to get revenge,to kill a human being even a harmless instects are strictly forbidden...
so, they are not muslim and i claim that they are also not a human being
especially uneducated,illeteral old parents suporting them..( |
I don't think any of the sophisticated people on this site would link it with the 'real Islam' I really do understand why the Western world has come to fear the Islam so much. So many bombings, so many people died, an enormous 'anti-western' feeling that has come up, all in the name of Allah. But it hasn't come to my mind for even one second, that these people are worth to call themselves 'Muslim'.
I think religion can do two things with people: it brings either the bad or the good up in them. It depends on how you fill in your daily life and what your own character is. So when you kill someone in the name of Allah, this is not because of your religion, but it is because of the way religion is changing you inside. And i think that weak people, searching for power, easily get their bad side brought up with religion. Killing in the name of Allah, God etc, is just a 'bahane' for your weakness in your hunger for power.
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