There is a confusion about the meanings of patriotism, nationalism etc.
In Turkish vatansever means someone who works for his/her country and comes to its help in the hour of need without expecting any reqards. A vatansever could be left or right and he does not necessarily have to be conservative.
A milliyetçi or a nationalist on the other hand believes that his/her nation is superior to other nations and whatever interest it has must also be his/her ultimate targets in life.
There is a thick line seperating fundamentalists from nationalists and patriots and that line acts like a security valve. The problem with Bush is that he doesn't have such a valve at all.
Turkish are getting more and more nationalist eachday..i think patriotism is not shouting hateful slogans and wave the flag. most of those march on streets do nothing for their country. and even worse thing is they are getting more crowded eachday.. i am speaking as a kurdish here..i am so afraid nowadays that i have to hide that i am kurdish (lucky that i dont have kurdishaccent)..kurdish i know in istanbul cannot speak their language lately...and in anatolia siutaion is even worse..in some towns in anatolia, kurdish neighborhoods are attacked by nationalists.. kurdish are on tenterhooks...nobody can tell me that people who hate kurdish are a minority in Turkey...they are everywhere!!!
Turkish are getting more and more nationalist eachday..i think patriotism is not shouting hateful slogans and wave the flag. most of those march on streets do nothing for their country. and even worse thing is they are getting more crowded eachday.. i am speaking as a kurdish here..i am so afraid nowadays that i have to hide that i am kurdish (lucky that i dont have kurdishaccent)..kurdish i know in istanbul cannot speak their language lately...and in anatolia siutaion is even worse..in some towns in anatolia, kurdish neighborhoods are attacked by nationalists.. kurdish are on tenterhooks...nobody can tell me that people who hate kurdish are a minority in Turkey...they are everywhere!!!
theres never an ethnic problems in Turkey,theres only a few dirty hands who has some benefits about this sibling fight,and pity this few mostly more noisey and powerfull then the biggest part of peacfull,tolerated people.
Turkish are getting more and more nationalist eachday..i think patriotism is not shouting hateful slogans and wave the flag. most of those march on streets do nothing for their country. and even worse thing is they are getting more crowded eachday.. i am speaking as a kurdish here..i am so afraid nowadays that i have to hide that i am kurdish (lucky that i dont have kurdishaccent)..kurdish i know in istanbul cannot speak their language lately...and in anatolia siutaion is even worse..in some towns in anatolia, kurdish neighborhoods are attacked by nationalists.. kurdish are on tenterhooks...nobody can tell me that people who hate kurdish are a minority in Turkey...they are everywhere!!!
theres never an ethnic problems in Turkey,theres only a few dirty hands who has some benefits about this sibling fight,and pity this few mostly more noisey and powerfull then the biggest part of peacfull,tolerated people.
A guy is saying that he has to hide he is kurdish!!!
And you are still saying we dont have ethnic problem!!!PHEW!!
I can understand how you must be feeling ciko!
It is so disturbing to read in some papers, in some areas, kurdish houses are marked!
We cant have another 6/7 September in Turkey.
WE CANT AFFORD IT.
I am afraid I have to agree with ciko. I have visited Turkey several times and have Kurdish Turkish and Arabic friends there. It always saddens me that i get a bad or strange reaction from some Turkish people when i say i have Kurdish friends or if i talk about Adana. They seem astounded that i would want to visit Adana and always ask why i want to go there. When i say i have friends there they usually proceed to tell me bad things about the Kurdish as if as if they think i should not got there. In general Turkey has such a good reputation amongst visitors for its hospitality. I find it very sad that they cannot extend this hospitality to the Kurdish people.
