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1.       Kehribar
1580 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 01:43 pm

I am trying to figure out the to have to structure.

so I have
ben gitmem lazim
sen gitmen lazim
o gitme lazim
biz gitmemiz lazim
siz git...
onlar

and then I can't figure out how you have to write siz and onlar.
Can someone expain?

2.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 02:05 pm

Quoting ambertje:

I am trying to figure out the to have to structure.

so I have
ben gitmem lazim
sen gitmen lazim
o gitme lazim
biz gitmemiz lazim
siz git...
onlar

and then I can't figure out how you have to write siz and onlar.
Can someone expain?



benim gitmem lazım
senin gitmen lazım
onun gitmesi lazım
bizim gitmemiz lazım
sizin gitmeniz lazım
onların gitmesi lazım (or gitmeleri lazım)

3.       Kehribar
1580 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 02:18 pm

Thank you, But why do you use benim, senin etc?

4.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 02:39 pm

Quoting ambertje:

Thank you, But why do you use benim, senin etc?



Let's look at the structure of the sentence:

benim gitmem lazım"

Verb is lazım olmak
we may think it in english: "to be necessary"

Subject is benim gitmem or you may write it without "benim". Only gitmem

So: what is necessary? (what have to be done?)
Answer is: "(benim) gitmem"
means: "my going" or "my going action"

Here "gitme" is the action. and my action is "i am going"
now we must say it as a subject group: "benim gitmem". so it is "my going"

and what is necessary? it is my going: "benim gitmem"
and let's look at the sentence form:
Subject + Object + Verb

what is our subject?
benim gitmem

and what is the verb?
lazım

As you see, all subjects are the third person: "it"
not "I" or "you" like in English sentence: "I have to go"

so verb must be suitable as the third person: "it"
lazım
who or what is necessary? Kim ya da ne lazım?
my going. benin gitmem

so, full sentence:
benim gitmem lazım : my going is necessary (or formal version in English: "I have to go")

and you should change it for the other pronouns:

senin gitmen: your going
onun gitmesi: his/her going
bizim gitmemiz: our going
sizin gitmeniz: your going
onların gitmesi (or onların gitmeleri): their going (or their goings)

I hope it is helpful!

5.       Kehribar
1580 posts
 13 Nov 2006 Mon 02:45 pm

yes it is, thank you very much!

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