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				 05 Dec 2006 Tue 08:29 pm | 
			 
			
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	I am learnnig the time now. But I get confused about the vocal harmony.
 
 Is there any body who can give me some examples.
 
 It is five past three.  Saat üçü (3-i) beş (5) geçiyor 
 It is five to three. Saat üç ? (3-e) yirmi beş var		 
		
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				 05 Dec 2006 Tue 09:08 pm | 
			 
			
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	 Quoting ambertje: I am learnnig the time now. But I get confused about the vocal harmony.
 
 Is there any body who can give me some examples.
 
 It is five past three.  Saat üçü (3-i) beş (5) geçiyor 
 It is five to three. Saat üç ? (3-e) yirmi beş var  |  
  
 
 
 "It is five to three" (3-e) beş (5) var.   
 
 25 : yirmi beş(twentyfive)     is ok  
  
 
 		
		
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				 05 Dec 2006 Tue 09:23 pm | 
			 
			
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	5.00= saat bes
 12.10= saat on ikiyi on geciyor
 14.05= saat dortu bes geciyor
 9.15= saat dokuzu ceyrek geciyor
 12.30= saat on iki bucuk
 11.55= saat on ikiye bes var
 10.45= saat on bire ceyrek var
 
 the accusative (-i hali)= -i(biri),-i (kizi), -yi(altiyi), -u(dokuzu), -yu(koyluyu)
 the dative (-e hali)= -a(ona), -e(bese), -ya(ablaya), -ye(anneye) 		 
		
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				 06 Dec 2006 Wed 12:54 am | 
			 
			
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	you might want to check out this post as well...
 
 http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_27_9940		 
		
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				 06 Dec 2006 Wed 01:06 am | 
			 
			
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	when using "geçiyor" you reference the hour behind and the first number takes the accusative case ending: 
 
 -i, -ı, -u, -ü, -yi, -yı, -yu, -yü 
 
 ex.
 12.10= saat on ikiyi on geçiyor 
 4.05= saat dördü beş geçiyor 
 9.15= saat dokuzu çeyrek geçiyor 
 
 when using "var" you reference the hour ahead and the first number takes the dative case ending:
 
 -e, -a, -ye, -ya
 
 ex. 
 11.55= saat on ikiye beş var 
 10.45= saat on bire çeyrek var 		 
		
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				 06 Dec 2006 Wed 04:57 pm | 
			 
			
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	OKe thank you!
 
 When using "geçiyor" you reference the hour behind and the first number takes the accusative case ending: 
 
 -i, -ı, -u, -ü, -yi, -yı, -yu, -yü 
 
 But why then with "var" only 
 
 -e, -a, -ye, -ya.
 
 I know we use, with "geçiyor" -i (+ vocal hormony) 
 and with "var" -e (+vocal hormany). So know I am looking for these harmony rules. I know there is an explanation by "learns turkish" but I don't get that   		 
		
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				 06 Dec 2006 Wed 05:15 pm | 
			 
			
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	 Quoting ambertje: OKe thank you!
 
 When using "geçiyor" you reference the hour behind and the first number takes the accusative case ending: 
 
 -i, -ı, -u, -ü, -yi, -yı, -yu, -yü 
 
 But why then with "var" only 
 
 -e, -a, -ye, -ya.
 
 I know we use, with "geçiyor" -i (+ vocal hormony) 
 and with "var" -e (+vocal hormany). So know I am looking for these harmony rules. I know there is an explanation by "learns turkish" but I don't get that     |  
  
 
 That's because you use the dative case, which only has the -a/-e harmony, not the -i/-ı/-ü/-u harmony.		
		
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