İ keep reading and reading all those posts and i don't find the problem till now !

There is something i learnt,and i found it it really leads to a good understanding. 'my man taught it to me '

Why don't all of you before posting or before attacking i must say,why don't you put yourself in the other one shoes ?!

Here we have 2 sides,West,and Türkiye,or maybe that goes for all the East too,but here we are talking about Türkiye.

İn the West people have been hearing and watching their Media,and know Türkiye,or hear about it from there.

So it is a life time for them.

Maybe some come here to understand,maybe some come to attack,that is irrelevant,in the end,they only know what they have heard.

You,Turkish people i mean,love your country,you have your own way of thinking,of believes,which they don't understand.

So isn't it part of loving your country to explain your view to those people ?

Maybe some will accept,maybe some will understand,and even those who doesn't accept,maybe they will stop attacking because they understood you have a piont,and it is your right to be different.

İsn't it part from your love to your country to let people understand that those point of view coming from a great history,not a shallow one?

Whether anyone likes or not,history form people characters,form nations characters.

İts not some nice,or sad stories written in a book.

İts a life of whole nation.

So if you say don't post,don't talk,don't ask ,so tell me.

You are leaving them to their Media to say and convince them by what they want,wheather its right or wrong ?

İs this part of loving your country ?

And in the end,they come and say you can buy camels in Türkiye,and you get mad about it ?

Why ? you were the one who is holding your knowledge back from them .

Of course you can buy camels in Türkiye,as you can buy horses in UK too,but that doesn't mean people ride horses in the streets in UK,or riding camels in Türkiye .

And for those who feel Turkish are aggressive.

You too put yourselves in their shoes,all they hear from the West only criticism.

For their way of living,for their thoughts,for their traditions,for their religions.
You just don't accept what is different from you,and they won't change their thought,their traditions,their character just to please the West,and that is their right too.
İ didn't see West changed to please the East,did they ?
Or its matter of power ?

Of course i don't mean all you in the West,but to honest, the majority.

They just fed up,and you really cann't blame them.

Put yourself in each other shoes,and you will get good communication,good understanding.
And accept each other.

İ say this,and i rest my case,enjoy

Ps: How wise you are my love
Bismellah maşallah

"democracy is really cool when it is for me only."

canli,
u talk too much about shoes, but nothin. what u brought to this discussion is just super neutral colorless useless words very usual to european pacifists.
i havent noticed any western attacking turks in this forum. learn to differ the words (there is a difference between critisism, discussion, arguement and attack) and learn to use proper words, dear. the word attack is so much used by some people, cos they take everything as an attack or insult (thats how actually behave children or immature grown ups)
the only person who attacks them is me. unfortunately europeans have very little knowledge on history and can bring really very little in here and often talk just rubbish. they simply have no arguements but they strangely join the discussion, i donno for what purpose.
this is the clash of the west and east simply. and very simply the westerners cant be in the shoes of proud easterners and easterners cant be in the shoes of western ignorants.
btw, talking about shoes, i myself am from the east, and i know well (too well) of the mentality. i know what it is to live totally brainwashed in the illusion of false propaganda.
its just a matter of becoming an individual and start using your own brain. a matter of choice to stay without no change or do smth about your own viewpoints developing them.

canli, you advise turks not to change? to stick to the old feudalistic customs and traditions? very odd! very unwise!
the person who doesnt interact, communicate or learn from others becomes a complete idiot whos very limited and awkward in relationships. it is the same with a nation (any nation, dont wanna give a reason to turks to use this as an attack as usual). the more you are closed and isolated and stuck with your own behavour the more emotional and social cripple you are!