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Army service
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19 Nov 2005 Sat 02:50 pm |
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thank you for all information about the army service!!
and i still want to know more...
how long it will take? for every turkish male or just those who wants to join? any holidays during the service?
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19 Nov 2005 Sat 05:39 pm |
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The standart duty is 15 months. I think there is permission for 30 days off which doesnt count to 15 months. First month you cant have any holiday.
Men with a 4 years university degree can make 12 months (yedek subay) as a medium ranked military officer (lieutenant) with a good monthly sallary. They dont have to stay inside premises all day. They start the job in the morning and finish in the evening. This is quite comfortable. Or they can make a shorter duty of 6 months (kısa dönem) as a normal soldier (sergeant) without a sallary and cant quit premises any time except on weekends with permission.
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19 Nov 2005 Sat 05:44 pm |
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what is the case if the person is not a university graduate? 15 months? without salary as a sergeant? can anyone "escape" from the army duty? 
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19 Nov 2005 Sat 05:58 pm |
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Quoting lululy: what is the case if the person is not a university graduate? 15 months? without salary as a sergeant? can anyone "escape" from the army duty? |
Greetings, sargents don't get any serious sallary. Just a symbolic sallary not worth to mention. It is the lieutenant who gets the sallary.
Yes without a 4 years degree (or more) you do as a ordinary soldier without any rank. This means they are not even sergeant yet. An ordianry soldier (called "er") can be elected as a sargeant if he has secondary school education. But a sargeant wont be very different than his normal friends.
It is 15 months and there is no way to escape. If you are permanenty ill provided that a military hospital and military doctors check your condition, you might escape. If you dont join the army without any reason (being a student is a reason) you will get arrested and can get a jail sentence before you serve the army. If you run away to another country to escape the military service your Turkish citizenship will be canceled.
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19 Nov 2005 Sat 06:39 pm |
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erdinc, thank you so much for yr full description~ i know it all now~ 
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19 Nov 2005 Sat 06:41 pm |
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Quoting erdinc: Quoting lululy: what is the case if the person is not a university graduate? 15 months? without salary as a sergeant? can anyone "escape" from the army duty? |
Greetings, sargents don't get any serious sallary. Just a symbolic sallary not worth to mention. It is the lieutenant who gets the sallary.
Yes without a 4 years degree (or more) you do as a ordinary soldier without any rank. This means they are not even sergeant yet. An ordianry soldier (called "er") can be elected as a sargeant if he has secondary school education. But a sargeant wont be very different than his normal friends.
It is 15 months and there is no way to escape. If you are permanenty ill provided that a military hospital and military doctors check your condition, you might escape. If you dont join the army without any reason (being a student is a reason) you will get arrested and can get a jail sentence before you serve the army. If you run away to another country to escape the military service your Turkish citizenship will be canceled. |
omg.. this is really serious stuff eh? i cant believe that you can actually lose your Turkish citizenship from it... o dear...
i like the way you say that one may "escape" for a medical reason.. hehe it cant be that bad...?
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19 Nov 2005 Sat 07:32 pm |
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Yes army service is a very serious issue all Turkish men must do. Losing citizenship takes a long time. I dont how many years they wait but they wait many years. During this long wait if the person comes back he will get arrested and will directly send to military service.
These kind men will be not very welcome in the army. They will have a harder time.
The health issue is too detailed. If you have some surgeries which prevent you to do sports properly you still will join the army but wont do the exercises.
You must have a serious illness. I think homosexuals are not accepted either.
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19 Nov 2005 Sat 07:36 pm |
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In my country there has been no compulsory military service anymore for years. But I remember that, when it used to be compulsory, people who didn't want to join the army for certain convictions, could apply for "exemption from military service on grounds of conscience". Those people had to do voluntary (mainly social)work instead for a fixed period of time (longer than if they would have done military service, if I remember correctly).
I haven't read anything similar here, I suppose it doesn't exist in Turkey?
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19 Nov 2005 Sat 07:43 pm |
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Escaping from the military duty?? Oh, it's a very shameful thing according to me. If you're healthy, you should proudly do your duty to your country.
(yes, it's not as safe as your mother's lap but, it teaches you what the life is. As I hear, there's man before the army and after the army  )
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19 Nov 2005 Sat 07:48 pm |
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Quoting mltm: Escaping from the military duty?? Oh, it's a very shameful thing according to me. If you're healthy, you should proudly do your duty to your country.
(yes, it's not as safe as your mother's lap but, it teaches you what the life is. As I hear, there's man before the army and after the army ) |
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19 Nov 2005 Sat 07:51 pm |
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Quoting Tatli: Can someone please reply to this one....my boyfriend is going to the army on monday and i am worried about him. I dont know what it is like but heard it was hard. If someone could inform me what to expect, maybe I could sleep easier. Thank you!!! |
Please don't believe me but forget your boyfriend for 6 or 15 months!
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