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1.       CANLI
5084 posts
 15 Jan 2007 Mon 03:03 am

Yeterlilik Eylemi Olumsuz,
There are 2 forms of it .


Eylem +(y) A +[mI yor,mA yAcAk,mA dI,mA mIş,mA,mAz] +kişi eki

And there are those two forums with Geniş zaman

Eylem + mA + y+ A bil+geniş zaman+kişi eki

Eylem + (y)A+ mA + y + A bil+geniş zaman+ kişi eki

When do we use each one of those,and which do you use it much in common daily life ?

2.       CANLI
5084 posts
 16 Jan 2007 Tue 01:41 am

Ok,a bit explanation,
Yeterlilik Eylemi,is used with the 'A bil' suffix,when you want to use,'can,or may'

And it forme this way
Eylem + y +A bil + zaman eki + kişi eki

Gelebilir..he can come

İn the negative form,we use it that way,

Eylem +(y) A +[mI yor,mA yAcAk,mA dI,mA mIş,mA,mAz] +kişi eki

Gelemez...he cann't come.

But there are 2 other forms in negative too

Eylem + mA + y+ A bil+geniş zaman+kişi eki

Gelmeyebilir....he may not come 'here,he may not come with his own well,choice'

Eylem + (y)A+ mA + y + A bil+geniş zaman+ kişi eki

Gelemeyebilir....he might not come 'he might not come but without choice,forced,as his boss not allow him or what ever the reason'

My question,
Do you use those normally in daily life?
And second, why only with geniş zaman ?

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3.       k_s
1526 posts
 16 Jan 2007 Tue 01:53 am

we use in daily life so much
and we don't use with genis zaman only.

for example;
he couldn't come because of hiss illness = hastaligindan dolayi gelemedi (gecmis zaman)

Did you go to consert? No, i could go but i didn't. = Konsere gittin mi? Hayir, gidebilirdim ama gitmedim. (gecmis zaman)

Sinemaya bizimle gelebilecek misin? ( gelecek zaman )

we use it genereally in genis zaman, but we use also with gecmis zaman and with gelecek zaman

4.       CANLI
5084 posts
 16 Jan 2007 Tue 02:02 am

Çok Tşkler k_s ,

And those forms,do you use them this way too ?

Eylem + mA + y+ A bil+geniş zaman+kişi eki
Gelmeyebilir.
Eylem + (y)A+ mA + y + A bil+geniş zaman+ kişi eki
Gelemeyebilir.

5.       k_s
1526 posts
 16 Jan 2007 Tue 02:15 am

Yes, those are negative forms,
we use those in that way

6.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 17 Jan 2007 Wed 12:59 pm

Quoting CANLI:

Çok Tşkler k_s ,

And those forms,do you use them this way too ?

Eylem + mA + y+ A bil+geniş zaman+kişi eki
Gelmeyebilir.
Eylem + (y)A+ mA + y + A bil+geniş zaman+ kişi eki
Gelemeyebilir.


gelemeyebilir refers: 1)ability 2)possibility
"he may not be able to come"
but gelmeyebilir refers just possibility.

"he may not come"

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