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When to use -ik on adjectives?
1.       bod
5999 posts
 03 Dec 2005 Sat 01:23 pm

When using a noun as an adjective, when is -ik used and when is it ommitted???

For example:
"O çizgik bir demlik"
or
"O çizgi bir demlik"

I can't work out when to add the -ik suffix :-S

2.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 03 Dec 2005 Sat 01:26 pm

Quoting bod:

When using a noun as an adjective, when is -ik used and when is it ommitted???

For example:
"O çizgik bir demlik"
or
"O çizgi bir demlik"

I can't work out when to add the -ik suffix :-S



the word çizgi comes from the verd çizmek if you want to make adj. it is çizik... scracthed huh...

3.       bod
5999 posts
 03 Dec 2005 Sat 01:34 pm

Quoting SuiGeneris:

the word çizgi comes from the verd çizmek if you want to make adj. it is çizik... scracthed huh...



Sorry - I was wanting "çizgi" as the noun for "stripe"

çizgi - stripe
demlik - teapot

çizgik demlik = stripy teapot?
But does it require the -ik suffix?

4.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 03 Dec 2005 Sat 01:38 pm

Quoting bod:


Sorry - I was wanting "çizgi" as the noun for "stripe"

çizgi - stripe
demlik - teapot

çizgik demlik = stripy teapot?
But does it require the -ik suffix?



nope dude you need to ad -li here
like çizgili demlik there must be rules about when to use which suffixes.. but i dont remember them much..

5.       bod
5999 posts
 03 Dec 2005 Sat 01:49 pm

Quoting SuiGeneris:

nope dude you need to ad -li here



Now I'm totally confused.......
I've never even heard of -li and it is not listed on http://www.dnathan.com/language/turkish/tsd/

What I am really looking for is a rule as to when to apply which suffix for changing nouns into adjectives - that was just one example.

6.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 03 Dec 2005 Sat 01:55 pm

well its their shame then.. but there wouldnt be a adj. like çizgik... i am sure about it...

http://www.turkishlanguage.co.uk/moresuffixes.htm

check here out...

7.       bod
5999 posts
 03 Dec 2005 Sat 02:17 pm

Quoting SuiGeneris:

well its their shame then.. but there wouldnt be a adj. like çizgik... i am sure about it...

http://www.turkishlanguage.co.uk/moresuffixes.htm

check here out...



Ah thank you very much indeed!
Yes - that explains it better

-li is used for a property of a noun (such as 'stripy') whereas -ik is used for an irreversible process that has happened to a noun (such as 'burnt') - is that a fair description???

8.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 15 Dec 2005 Thu 02:17 pm

But.. what about güzellik?

This is with -ik.. but it's not as in Burnt that it 'happened' to the noun? Or was it "beautified"

Oh wait, güzel is not a noun But i would still like if some of the native speakers could explain it a bit more, just by giving a few turkish sentences with their english translations... Erdinc? Meltem? Cyrano? Anyone? Help? (a)

9.       Oguz
18 posts
 16 Dec 2005 Fri 12:27 am

First of all i have to say that i’m not a proffessional.

somethings about –ik suffix;

- it makes an adj. with base form of a verb…………(verb + -ik, -ık, -ük, -uk,…. = adj.)
- it makes a noun with base form of a verb…………(verb+ -ik,………………………= noun)
- sometimes it is not a suffix

verb + -ik > adj.
***************

çiz / çizik……………..scratch / scratched

Who has scratched my car?
Arabamı kim çizdi?

It’s mine if you see a scratch car.
Eğer çizik bir araba görürsen benimkisidir.



yan / yanık……………burn / burnt

You burn if you touch the pan.
Eğer tavaya dokunursan yanarsın

Do you smell any burnt?
Hiç yanık kokusu alıyor musun?



kes / kesik…………….cut / cut

Be careful ! Don’t cut your face.
Dikkat et ! Yüzünü kesme.

There is a little cut on your face.
Yüzünde küçük bir kesik var.


aç / açık……………….open/open

Open the door
Kapıyı aç

The door is already open
Kapı zaten açık


verb + -ik > noun
****************

kaz /kazık……………dig / stake

we have to dig more grave than yesterday
Dünkünden daha fazla mezar kazmalıyız.

How many deads are there on the stakes?
Kazıklarda kaç tane ölü var?

del / delik…………….bore / bore

The workers will bore the same field.
Can you remember the last bore where it is?

sometimes it is not a suffix
**************************

yazık !……………….. alas !
yüzük…………………ring
tüzük………………….rules
kekik………………….thyme


güzell+ik (incorrect)
güzel+lik (correct)

güzel = beautiful
güzel+lik = beauty

I’m happy if someone corrects my mistakes.

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