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+inca suffix?
1.       tabard
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 10 Dec 2005 Sat 06:05 pm

In another topic Edrinc posted these phrases


Hasta olunca hastaneye gideriz.
Küçük bebek annesini görünce mutlu oldu.
Çok az zaman kalınca panik oldum.

Can someone explain us what exactly the ca ending means and how we use it? Or is it an "inca" ending added at the root of the verb.

Is it the same as -arak/erek suffix, or the -ken one?

2.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 10 Dec 2005 Sat 06:26 pm

Quoting tabard:

In another topic Edrinc posted these phrases


Hasta olunca hastaneye gideriz.
Küçük bebek annesini görünce mutlu oldu.
Çok az zaman kalınca panik oldum.

Can someone explain us what exactly the ca ending means and how we use it? Or is it an "inca" ending added at the root of the verb.

Is it the same as -arak/erek suffix, or the -ken one?



the "ca" ending is not the same as the -ken one, no...
it is used to say when sth. happens/happened..

for eg: ben oraya gelince seninle sinemaya gitmek istiyorum
meaning- "when i come there i want to go to the cinema with you"

"gelince" here, means "when i come"... you have to say who/ what ur talking about too though, like as above i have used "ben"....

im sorry if thats confusing... maybe someone else can give a better answer

hope i could help though

3.       tabard
28 posts
 11 Dec 2005 Sun 01:24 am

Hi Miss Ceyda,

I beleive it is a -(y) ince/ünce/ınca/unca suffix not just a -ce ca.At least this is what I concluded from what Edrinc wrote
Let me try an example:

Haberler dinleyince ağladım
(When I heard the news I cried)

I hope its correct.

4.       erdinc
2151 posts
 11 Dec 2005 Sun 08:13 pm

When I wrote the sentences I didnt realise the -ince suffix in them. I was trying to include 'olmak' but accidentially -ince was also there. The ince suffix has the following forms:
–(y)ınca, –(y)ince, –(y)unca, –(y)ünce
The last vowel of the verb stem determines wich one we use out of these four. For instance if the last vowel is a or ı the suffix is -ınca.
Last vowel - suffix chart:
a,ı > –(y)ınca
e,i > –(y)ince
o,u > –(y)unca
ö,ü > –(y)ünce

Example:
infinitive: koşmak
verb stem: koş
koşunca > when running

The buffer y is added when the verb stem ends with a vowel. The reason, as you might know, is to prevent two vowels coming next to each other.
Example:
infinitive: okumak
verb stem: oku
okuyunca: when reading

The main usage of this suffix is expresing time like in the examples above. So mostly we would translate this suffix as 'when'.
With 'kadar' like in 'gidinceye kadar' it can mean 'until'.
Example:
Ben gelinceye kadar bekle. > Wait until I come.

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