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1.       kaddersokak
130 posts
 03 May 2007 Thu 12:20 am

Democracy cannot be compromised
by
GRAHAM WATSON*
Turkey’s military is stirring against democratic forces for the fourth time since 1960 -- in a move which could spell disaster for EU relations, not to mention the country’s economy and its international standing.



Barely 10 years after mounting a coup against Necmettin Erbakan’s government, the generals have spoken out again, this time against Abdullah Gül’s nomination as president of the republic.
Last Friday’s statement claims the army is defending Turkey’s secular roots by protesting his candidacy. Yet by claiming they “are a side in this debate” and “will display their position and attitudes when it becomes necessary” -- presumably by any means necessary -- they are violating the strict separation of powers that Turkey, as a democratic state, officially adheres to.

As far as the EU is concerned what happens next will be a test of Turkey’s democratic maturity. The German presidency, quite rightly, has rallied around Gül’s candidacy and urged that no external pressure should be put on the Constitutional Court when it decides on the legality of the election in advance of the second round of voting on Wednesday. Europe’s leaders have already made clear that they consider the current foreign minister a safe pair of hands to guide Turkey into the next round of reforms and dig the EU accession process out of the hole it is currently in. Whether his wife wears a headscarf or not, whether he is a practicing Muslim or not, should be irrelevant to his nomination.

Furthermore there is nothing to suggest that Mr. Gül is not a committed democrat. The fact that the Justice and Development Party (AK Party) has its roots in Islamic values -- much as the Christian Democrats, who are currently the biggest political force in the European Parliament, have their roots in Christian values -- does not imply it is a threat to Turkey’s secular constitution. Rather a moderate Islamic force could act as a stabilizing influence in politics across the Middle East, providing a model of reconciliation between religious beliefs and democratic principles that many Muslim majority countries currently lack. Suppressing the will of the people will simply force the Islamic agenda underground and risk inflaming tensions, rather than calming them.

Indeed it could be argued that Turkey’s brand of secularism is amongst the most extreme and inflexible in the world. Modeled on the French Third Republic, it preaches a brand of laïcité which has evolved little over the past 80 years and has problems with recognizing certain religious and minority rights. Easing up on headscarf bans in universities, allowing Koran-reading competitions on national days, or any of the other “unmentionable” ideas Gül is said to have a hand in, does not herald a fundamentalist takeover but rather goes hand-in-hand with the enhanced freedom of expression and religious liberty that Turkey agreed to promote when it became a candidate for EU accession.

Experience in Europe shows that, while the separation of religion and state is scrupulously observed, that prevents no one from adhering to the religion of their choice -- including in public buildings like schools and universities, where students are allowed to abide by their religious or cultural dress codes and often given the choice of kosher, halal or vegetarian meals.

Likewise many European heads of state are practicing Christians, notably British Prime Minister Tony Blair and German Chancellor Angela Merkel, who have made no secret of their beliefs. Indeed my own mother -- who is a pious Christian -- followed the Paulian tradition by covering her head when she entered a church for many years, which is by no means unusual. Gül should be judged by the same standard as other leaders -- not made to choose between secularism and his personal faith. It is clear from the million-man march for secularism that took place in İstanbul last week, however, that the prospect of a joint Gül/Erdoğan premiership has split Turkish public opinion into two distinct camps. What both sides need to recognize, however, is that the army’s behavior threatens to undermine Turkey’s prosperity, security and stability.

Far more worrying than moderate Islam, for the average Turkish citizen, is the effect of the cancellation of elections, or the specter of another coup could have on Turkey’s rapidly-expanding economy. Financial markets had reached record highs before last week’s threat of intervention caused the İstanbul Stock Exchange (İMKB) 100 Index to fall 8 percent in one day. Further uncertainty about Turkey’s democratic status could well see stock market asset values freefall.

A healthy, stable democratic system is necessary for investors, as it is for Turkey’s international standing. Allowing the army to overstep the line will set back a decade’s worth of progress and impede all prospects of a settlement with the EU. For now perhaps only a reappraisal of the will of the people, through early parliamentary elections, can provide the indicator that Turkey -- and the rest of the world -- needs of the resilience of its democratic institutions.


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*Graham Watson is the chairman of Liberal Group in the European Parliament

2.       mltm
3690 posts
 03 May 2007 Thu 01:06 am

"As far as the EU is concerned what happens next will be a test of Turkey’s democratic maturity."

Thank you for your concern EU, but we don't want to be a part of you anymore. We won't apply your advices.

3.       KeithL
1455 posts
 03 May 2007 Thu 01:45 am

I have thought this for a long time. Piss on the EU...
In 10 years, there will be no advantage.
Stay true to self governing secularism.

4.       longinotti1
1090 posts
 03 May 2007 Thu 04:16 am

Quoting KeithL:

I have thought this for a long time. Piss on the EU...
In 10 years, there will be no advantage.
Stay true to self governing secularism.



I agree, but I wonder that there is any advantage even now.

5.       catwoman
8933 posts
 03 May 2007 Thu 04:31 am

And on top of that, if Turkey becomes an Islamic Republic, then there won't be any EU membership anyways.

6.       qdemir
812 posts
 03 May 2007 Thu 10:14 am

Quoting catwoman:

And on top of that, if Turkey becomes an Islamic Republic, then there won't be any EU membership anyways.



, and vise versa if, some day, Turkey succeeds in being a member state the EU membership will be a kind of guarantee of democracy in Turkey. Turkey will neither be an Islamic Republic nor be dominated by a small economical, social and political elite as it is now.
There is no need to have feeling of inferiority. The EU was founded as a guarantee of democracy and peace in Europe in the aftermath of the world war II.

I don't like being treated in the way the EU does. However, if I were the EU would I let Turkey join the EU? No, I wouldn't. Not yet.

7.       Trudy
7887 posts
 03 May 2007 Thu 12:19 pm

Quoting qdemir:

I don't like being treated in the way the EU does.



I agree with you Qdemir, and not only for Turkey.

Quoting qdemir:

However, if I were the EU would I let Turkey join the EU? No, I wouldn't. Not yet.



Can you explain this? I'm curious to hear.

8.       qdemir
812 posts
 03 May 2007 Thu 03:47 pm

Quoting Trudy:

Quoting qdemir:

I don't like being treated in the way the EU does.



I agree with you Qdemir, and not only for Turkey.

Quoting qdemir:

However, if I were the EU would I let Turkey join the EU? No, I wouldn't. Not yet.



Can you explain this? I'm curious to hear.



Neither Turkey nor the EU is ready for that.

9.       KeithL
1455 posts
 03 May 2007 Thu 03:57 pm

The gap between the rich and the poor in Turkey is very high. There are only a handful of industrialized areas in Turkey to find good-paying jobs. Because of this, the poorest of Turks (and least educated) will be the ones that seek employment in Europe's Industrial cities if the borders were opened. It won't be the educated, skilled Turks that attempt to find work elsewhere.
Turkey will be Europes's largest country within 10 years (population).
The possibility of so many workers (maybe more than a million) flooding Europe with cheap labor frightens most Europeans.
This is the major reason I see that Europe is hesitant to integrate Turkey into EU. I doubt very much that religion has much to do with it. The EU's religion is profit...

10.       panta rei
0 posts
 03 May 2007 Thu 04:06 pm

Quoting KeithL:


This is the major reason I see that Europe is hesitant to integrate Turkey into EU. I doubt very much that religion has much to do with it. The EU's religion is profit...



Nope! The main reason that they don't want us, is that we eat disgusting kokoreç! lol

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