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1.       Phil
19 posts
 13 Dec 2005 Tue 11:33 pm

merhaba

i am just wondering how turkish words work when in english you add a S example: my angel=melegim / my angels=?

what is the translation for english
please help phil

2.       Lyndie
968 posts
 13 Dec 2005 Tue 11:36 pm

Maybe its
Meleğlerim - my angels!
I am usually completely rubbısh so thıs ıs probably wrong but I try!

3.       mltm
3690 posts
 13 Dec 2005 Tue 11:39 pm

Quoting Phil:

merhaba

i am just wondering how turkish words work when in english you add a S example: my angel=melegim / my angels=?

what is the translation for english
please help phil



melek-im ----> meleğim
melek-ler-im ----> meleklerim

kitap-ım ----> kitabım
kitap-lar-ım---> kitaplarım

kalem-im----> kalemim
kalem-ler-im----> kalemlerim

so you take the word, put the plural suffix (-ler or -lar) according to the vowel harmony and then put the first person possessive suffix (-im or -ım) according to the vowel harmony again.
as you notice you do the necessary changes k becomes ğ, p becomes b, ç becomes c but they don't change when you put the plural suffixes ler and lar because they don't start with a vowel.

4.       Lyndie
968 posts
 13 Dec 2005 Tue 11:41 pm

CIK! only half right as usual!

5.       mltm
3690 posts
 13 Dec 2005 Tue 11:43 pm

Quoting Lyndie:

CIK! only half right as usual!



6.       Lyndie
968 posts
 13 Dec 2005 Tue 11:47 pm

Grrrrr... I knew this. Why didn't I think harder! CIK again.

7.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 14 Dec 2005 Wed 12:04 am

There are like 2 types of consonants in Turkish:

1. Voiced consonants
2. Unvoiced consonants

Unvoiced consonants dont make your Vocal cords 'shake' when you say them. These unvoiced consonants are the consonants you see in the following sentence:

efe paşa çok hasta.

Now there are a few rules:

1). When a word ends with one of the above mentioned consonants, (f,p,ş,ç,k,h,s,t) and is followed by a suffix with a voiced vowel (any other but the above mentioned), then this voiced vowel changes into an unvoiced vowel.

Example:

Küçük = little
-dir = he, she is

Küçük-dir BECOMES küçüktür
Because: the unvoiced K was followed by the voiced D and therefore this D transformed in a T.


2). Now, the second rule, explains why Melek-im becomes meleğim.

This rule only concerns P,Ç,K and T.
If one of these unvoiced consonants get BETWEEN TWO vowels because of adding a suffix, they changed into the following:

p --> b
ç --> c
k --> ğ
T --> d

Examples:

ağaç --> tree
ağaca --> to the tree.
The ç changed into a c because of adding the suffix -a- made it in between TWO vowels.

Erkek --> man
Erkeğim --> I'm a man
The K changed into a ğ, because of adding the suffix -im- made it in between TWO vowels.

This is quite confusing, but if you practise a little you get used to it and actually, its quite logical if you speak because then it 'rolls' out of your mouth better!


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If i made any mistakes in explaining this, i would like to hear a native tongue But isn't it said that you learn the best while teaching? (a)

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