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about accusative case
1.       iHeartCrouchy
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 26 May 2007 Sat 11:16 am

Oğlan ekmeği yiyor.

Oğlan biraz ekmek yedi.

My question is, why in the second sentence the accusative case marker is not added to "ekmek"? Thx alot!!!!!!!!!!!!

2.       iHeartCrouchy
74 posts
 26 May 2007 Sat 11:23 am

also why isn't the future tense of "yemek" "yeyecek" but "yiyecek"?

3.       Elisa
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 26 May 2007 Sat 12:34 pm

Quoting iHeartCrouchy:

also why isn't the future tense of "yemek" "yeyecek" but "yiyecek"?



Yemek (and also demek) are verbs that look like exceptions but they aren't.
They follow the same rules as other verbs of which the stem ends in a vowel:

Eg: anlamak => anl(a) + ı + verb ending => anlıyor (present continuous tense)

The vowel of the verb stem in yemek is dropped and replaced by -i-.
In the present continuous it would be y(e) + i + yor => yiyor (he is eating)
Future tense is y(e) + i + y (buffer) + ecek => yiyecek

4.       Elisa
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 26 May 2007 Sat 12:37 pm

Quoting iHeartCrouchy:

Oğlan ekmeği yiyor.

Oğlan biraz ekmek yedi.

My question is, why in the second sentence the accusative case marker is not added to "ekmek"? Thx alot!!!!!!!!!!!!



In the first sentence, the kid is eating a "specific" piece of bread, the bread that his mum gave him for example.

In the second sentence, the bread is not really defined, so no accusative.

5.       SunFlowerSeed
841 posts
 26 May 2007 Sat 05:50 pm

A definitive one will be;
Oğlan ekmeğin birazını yedi.

The boy ate some pieces of the bread.

others are;
The boy ate some (pieces of) bread. -> Oğlan biraz ekmek yedi.
The boy ate the bread. -> Oğlan ekmeği yedi.
The boy ate a bread. -> Oğlan bir ekmek yedi.
The boy ate bread. -> Oğlan ekmek yedi. (don't know if this is correct in English)

6.       iHeartCrouchy
74 posts
 27 May 2007 Sun 07:00 am

Thank you so much Elisa and SunFlowerSeeds ))))

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