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Reg. past tense Question....
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12 Jun 2007 Tue 08:42 am |
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He was good. --> İyiydi.
I was successful. --> Başarılıydım
The above examples were given for making adjectives past tense
She was pretty. Guzeldi.
I dont understand the first two examples though.
Why is the significance of the Iyi + y + di
Basaril + iy + dim
What is the 'Y' for?
Can anyone please help ?? Thank YOU 
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12 Jun 2007 Tue 09:10 am |
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Quoting TeresaJana: He was good. --> İyiydi.
I was successful. --> Başarılıydım
The above examples were given for making adjectives past tense
She was pretty. Guzeldi.
I dont understand the first two examples though.
Why is the significance of the Iyi + y + di
Basaril + iy + dim
What is the 'Y' for?
Can anyone please help ?? Thank YOU |
the "y" is a buffer letter used to form the past tense when the stem word ends in a vowel.
the past tense was originally formed as "-idi" where a buffer letter was required to separate the vowels.
for example, the first two:
-İyiydi
-Başarılıydım
used to be written as "iyiyidi" and "başarılıyıdım".
see also this thread:
http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_6_16775
and here:
http://www.turkishlanguage.co.uk/tobepos.htm
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12 Jun 2007 Tue 10:07 am |
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thank you!
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16 Jun 2007 Sat 06:22 am |
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when adding past tense suffix to 'root' or stem words such as oku which end in a vowel...there is no 'y' added. I believe this was the source of the confusion.
so, is it that 'complete' words not 'root' words that end in a vowel take the past tense suffix ydi ? Is this correct?
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16 Jun 2007 Sat 08:17 am |
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It seems like you are confusing verb-verbs and noun-verbs.
oku is root of a 'verb' itself.
So you need to add -di suffix for past tense.
Ex: oku-du, sakla-dı, dile-di.
To use nouns in past tense you need to convert them to a verb.
Which is done by adding i(mek) verb to the noun or adjective.
(N)Teresa +i +di -> Teresa idi -> Teresaydı. -> She was Teresa.
(Adj)İyi +i +di -> İyi idi -> İyiydi.
(Adj)Başarılı +i +di -> Başarılı idi -> Başarılıydı.
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16 Jun 2007 Sat 10:51 am |
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you mean I can keep adding suffixes?
like: teresayabilecek mi?
hehehe
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16 Jun 2007 Sat 11:28 am |
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Quoting TeresaJana: you mean I can keep adding suffixes?
like: teresayabilecek mi? |
Those are only added to verb stems though, not nouns. In your case it would be "Teresa olabilecek mi?"
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16 Jun 2007 Sat 11:34 am |
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hmm ok then teresaydi she was teresa cant actually be written as such?
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16 Jun 2007 Sat 11:36 am |
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Quoting TeresaJana: hmm ok then teresaydi she was teresa cant actually be written as such? |
Yes, that's OK, like SFS said. Why do you think so? The present and past suffixes of "olmak" can be added to nouns and adjectives no problem.
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16 Jun 2007 Sat 12:03 pm |
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Thank you. ok, so the simple present and past tenses of to be can be added to a noun
and the possessive suffix also and the subject, dative, locative and ablative suffixes. true? or are there others that can be added?
my teresa = teresa + -im (i is dropped..) = teresam
I am teresa = teresa + -im (y is added as buffer..) = teresayim
I was teresa = teresa + -ydim (y is added as changing noun to past tense to be) = teresaydim
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