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Preliminary Election Results
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22 Jul 2007 Sun 08:33 pm |
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I am watching CNN Turk. Only 77% of the votes have been counted, but initial results are for 47.8% AKP, for 20 % CHP and for 14.6% MHP. No other party looks like getting over the 10% barrier for seats in Parliament.
Still 23% to be counted before definite results are clear... will keep you updated as the evening goes on.
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22 Jul 2007 Sun 08:51 pm |
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If it goes like that, which is expectable...
the parlementer numbers in the hall for parties' are:
AKP:330
CHP:124
MHP:77
Independent:19
source: TRT1
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22 Jul 2007 Sun 08:55 pm |
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So AKP can carry on as government on its own, with no need for a coalition.
The main change from before is that the Nationalist Peoples Party (MHP) which wasnt in the Parliament before now gets seats, and joins the Republican Peoples Party (CHP) in opposition. We are back to 3 parties in Parliament, but the previous governing party, Ak PArty, can continue as they have over half of the seats.
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22 Jul 2007 Sun 09:16 pm |
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Exactly...
The president of AKP knew how to talk to society in Anatolia, and also having head scarved wives around affected the people...
another point is people are bored from multi partied coalitions and governing...
we will see what will be done...
but another prime minister electing crisis is waiting at the door...
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22 Jul 2007 Sun 09:58 pm |
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A question: how many % of the parliament members need to say 'yes' to a law change? Is that 50% + 1, 66%, 75% or...?
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22 Jul 2007 Sun 10:00 pm |
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We are really sorry. Somethings going on in Turkey. All over the world, media supports akp and akp do exactly nothing new.(except getting rich with all their relatives, escaping from law with killer son, which are not new in Turkish politics) Maybe we are way too much opportunist to think our people can see the danger, bad economy, lots of loans, threads about secularism. Over all, questioning Misak-ı Milli (Turkey's map will remain like now forever)I am reaaly sad now. I hope I am the pessimistic one, our sons can live in Turkey with peace as we did. I wish this results turn out something good for Turkey.
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22 Jul 2007 Sun 10:11 pm |
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Quoting Trudy: A question: how many % of the parliament members need to say 'yes' to a law change? Is that 50% + 1, 66%, 75% or...? |
for normal laws, you need more than half but for "Anayasa" laws you need more than 2/3...
Actually everything is just starting... just going infront of a box and dropping an envelope there is not the only duty for a citizen... we just have to be followers of democracy... which is very hard to deal, but this is how it has to be...
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22 Jul 2007 Sun 10:14 pm |
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Quoting SuiGeneris: Quoting Trudy: A question: how many % of the parliament members need to say 'yes' to a law change? Is that 50% + 1, 66%, 75% or...? |
for normal laws, you need more than half but for "Anayasa" laws you need more than 2/3...
Actually everything is just starting... just going infront of a box and dropping an envelope there is not the only duty for a citizen... we just have to be followers of democracy... which is very hard to deal, but this is how it has to be... |
What is an 'Anayasa' law exactly? I just asked because if the % of voters is only 50% than AK can do what it wants, they have majority in parliament now, and CHP + MHP are then not needed. Or....?
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22 Jul 2007 Sun 10:16 pm |
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Quoting SuiGeneris: Quoting Trudy: A question: how many % of the parliament members need to say 'yes' to a law change? Is that 50% + 1, 66%, 75% or...? |
for normal laws, you need more than half but for "Anayasa" laws you need more than 2/3...
Actually everything is just starting... just going infront of a box and dropping an envelope there is not the only duty for a citizen... we just have to be followers of democracy... which is very hard to deal, but this is how it has to be...
Democracy like most of the regime, eats itself now. In theory, it is perfect, but in real world people votes like election is some sort of Tv show. I support this guy cose he is handsome, tall and swears for good. This are the facts that hurts. |
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22 Jul 2007 Sun 10:29 pm |
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Quoting Trudy: Quoting SuiGeneris: Quoting Trudy: A question: how many % of the parliament members need to say 'yes' to a law change? Is that 50% + 1, 66%, 75% or...? |
for normal laws, you need more than half but for "Anayasa" laws you need more than 2/3...
Actually everything is just starting... just going infront of a box and dropping an envelope there is not the only duty for a citizen... we just have to be followers of democracy... which is very hard to deal, but this is how it has to be... |
What is an 'Anayasa' law exactly? I just asked because if the % of voters is only 50% than AK can do what it wants, they have majority in parliament now, and CHP + MHP are then not needed. Or....? |
Hi Trudy, thats what I meant when I said that AKP would be in government on their own, as they have more than 50%. They dont need another party to be in with them in coalition.
But to change any articles of the Constitution, or to select a President (the argument they had a few months ago) they need 2/3 majority. This they don't have. But maybe some independents (often Kurdish politicians) may join them in a vote in return for a promise to make changes they would like too.
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