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qestions about pronouns
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21 Aug 2007 Tue 12:58 am |
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Hey i am trying to learn pronouns and i have somequestions about the lessons i am learning
firstly how do you know which constant to use as the fusion constant is it always y EG Ben kötü-y-üm
Kötüsün
Güzelim
Geliyorum
how do u know which vowel to use under the vowel harmony section it says the vowel used is usually determined by the last vowel in the word well geliyorum the last vowel is U not O why is this explenation please
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these bunlar
those (between these and those) şunlar
those onlar
what does betwen these and those mean and when would i use this word sunlar?
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Gizem's house --> Gizem'in evi
in this case i have to add in after gizem to idicate its myn (hers) and also i after evi to indicate its hers again ??
tesekur ederim
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21 Aug 2007 Tue 01:26 am |
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Quoting jaromeiggy: Hey i am trying to learn pronouns and i have somequestions about the lessons i am learning
firstly how do you know which constant to use as the fusion constant is it always y EG Ben kötü-y-üm
Kötüsün
Güzelim
Geliyorum
how do u know which vowel to use under the vowel harmony section it says the vowel used is usually determined by the last vowel in the word well geliyorum the last vowel is U not O why is this explenation please
also
these bunlar
those (between these and those) şunlar
those onlar
what does betwen these and those mean and when would i use this word sunlar?
lastly
Gizem's house --> Gizem'in evi
in this case i have to add in after gizem to idicate its myn (hers) and also i after evi to indicate its hers again ??
tesekur ederim
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Woow,you've asked so many questions all together.
Ok first,if you checked the language Forum here,you will find many threads about vowel harmoney that will make you understand it easily.
İ didnt understand the question in this part
EG Ben kötü-y-üm...
The real word is kötü meaning bad
you want to say İ AM bad ...although i perefer good 'iyi ' anyway
So you will add the suffix Im..
First thing you should chesk last vowel so you know in what shape you will change the 'I '
Last vowel is 'Ü ' so you will change I to Ü
but you cant have 2 vowels after one another so you put 'Y' as a buffer in between
So it become kötüYÜm
As for
these bunlar
those (between these and those) şunlar
those onlar
Bunlar...these
Şunlar ...those and you can see them and may point at them too
Onlar... those for something not here and you are talking about
As for Gizem's house --> Gizem'in evi
İt is true
We have 2 structures
s+I
and nIn + sI
When you want to say the school manager for example
And talking about the education system so you are not mention an exact manager
So you say
Okul müdürÜ
Here we added only I to the word,and notice the vowel harmont rule we cahnged it to Ü
İf the last letter is a vowel
like Okul çantaSI 'the school bag' we added 's ' here as a buffer
But if we were talking about an exact school manager,ours for example
So we use the other structure
OkulUN müdürÜ
Türkiye'NİN başkantİ.... Türkiye's capital
And first N in Türkiye is buffer to seperate 2 vowels.
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22 Aug 2007 Wed 07:31 am |
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can u explain the geliyorum since the last vowel is an o shouldint it be geliyorom ?
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22 Aug 2007 Wed 07:51 am |
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Quoting jaromeiggy: can u explain the geliyorum since the last vowel is an o shouldint it be geliyorom ? |
no, because the suffix -um follows words where the last vowel is -o or -u.
http://www.turkishlanguage.co.uk/vh3.htm
if the last vowel is either -e or -i, it is followed by -im.
if the last vowel is either -a or -ı, it is followed by -ım.
if the last vowel is either -ö or -ü, it is followed by -üm.
if the last vowel is either -o or -u, it is followed by -um.
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