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men&women never equal and never can be..)
1.       MrX67
2540 posts
 22 Aug 2007 Wed 03:30 pm

is it easy for a man,while this all good specialites in the nature of women?>>>>http://cards.riversongs.com/e-cards/women.html

2.       catwoman
8933 posts
 22 Aug 2007 Wed 04:34 pm

"The basic biological facts are undisputed: Only women can bear and nurse children, and, on the average, men are bigger, stronger, and faster than women. Adult male bodies also contain a higher amount of androgen than adult female bodies. However, people are never content with observing these simple facts; they always jump to conclusions about their psychological meaning. Thus, in our society, the feminine character stands for passivity, submission, weakness, impulsiveness, and sentimentality, while the masculine character represents activity, aggression, strength, self-control, and rationality. Therefore, men are considered better at fighting, moving heavy equipment, lifting weights, solving technical problems, and abstract thinking; women are said to excel in raising and educating children, working with small, intricate tools, decorating, and communicating. These are all highly questionable generalizations, but even if we accept them as true, we have to realize that, at the present time, it is virtually impossible to say whether they reflect biological inheritance or social conditioning. In fact, males and females are treated differently from birth, and as long as this discrimination continues, their "unadulterated" character will remain a matter of conjecture.

At any rate, in the meantime anthropologists have found and described some societies where the masculine and feminine roles were nearly the reverse of our own, i.e., where women appeared as aggressive providers and men as docile homemakers. (See, for example, Margaret Mead's study Sex and Temperament in Three Primitive Societies [1933].) Furthermore, it has been observed that in many "underdeveloped" countries women function as water bearers and are expected to carry heavy burdens over long distances. Many of them also till the soil or catch fish under the "supervision" of men who reserve the easier tasks for themselves.

Ironically, it is not at all unusual for men to let their wives and daughters do all the hard work while claiming at the same time that women are the "weaker sex". Power relationships do not have to make logical sense, and they do not come to an end merely because they do not stand up to reason. After all, in ancient Rome wealthy citizens entrusted the education of their offspring to slaves whom they despised as inferiors, and in more recent times European absolute monarchs used men of "low birth" to help govern their countries and to demonstrate the superiority of aristocratic rule. From a strictly logical point of view it is difficult to justify the specifics of any gender role division or to explain its widespread acceptance. One can only register the fact that the division exists, and that it often implies the denigration and subjection of women.

Male privilege and female subjection, in turn, distort both the masculine and feminine characters. Many men develop a fanatical, anxious pride in their masculinity which colors and restricts nearly all of their actions. This unhealthy attitude, which to others appears both menacing and ridiculous, is perhaps best described with the Spanish word machismo (from macho: male). Women, on the other hand, have to live up to an unrealistic ideal of "pure womanhood" which robs them of all initiative and exposes them to the injustice of a sexual double standard."

Sex and Gender

3.       ciko
784 posts
 22 Aug 2007 Wed 04:47 pm

Quoting MrX67:

is it easy for a man,while this all good specialites in the nature of women?>>>>http://cards.riversongs.com/e-cards/women.html



none of women i have known so far was real if woman is such a great innocent beautiful created

and also i dont think God would take such a stupid angel's questions so seriously

4.       MrX67
2540 posts
 22 Aug 2007 Wed 04:53 pm

Quoting ciko:

Quoting MrX67:

is it easy for a man,while this all good specialites in the nature of women?>>>>http://cards.riversongs.com/e-cards/women.html



none of women i have known so far was real if woman is such a great innocent beautiful created

and also i dont think God would take such a stupid angel's questions so seriously

thats about real women ,not for false women bro

5.       ciko
784 posts
 22 Aug 2007 Wed 04:59 pm

Quoting MrX67:

Quoting ciko:

Quoting MrX67:

is it easy for a man,while this all good specialites in the nature of women?>>>>http://cards.riversongs.com/e-cards/women.html



none of women i have known so far was real if woman is such a great innocent beautiful created

and also i dont think God would take such a stupid angel's questions so seriously

thats about real women ,not for false women bro



i think you will never mary if you are looking for a girl like that thats not real woman.. i would feel like husband of mother marry if i was with a woman like that grrrrrrrr no no i dont want that kind of woman..mine is perfect for me

6.       MrX67
2540 posts
 22 Aug 2007 Wed 05:03 pm

Quoting ciko:

Quoting MrX67:

Quoting ciko:

Quoting MrX67:

is it easy for a man,while this all good specialites in the nature of women?>>>>http://cards.riversongs.com/e-cards/women.html



none of women i have known so far was real if woman is such a great innocent beautiful created

and also i dont think God would take such a stupid angel's questions so seriously

thats about real women ,not for false women bro



i think you will never mary if you are looking for a girl like that thats not real woman.. i would feel like husband of mother marry if i was with a woman like that grrrrrrrr no no i dont want that kind of woman..mine is perfect for me

then enjoy ur perfecty bro

7.       catwoman
8933 posts
 22 Aug 2007 Wed 05:07 pm

Quoting ciko:

Quoting MrX67:

is it easy for a man,while this all good specialites in the nature of women?


none of women i have known so far was real if woman is such a great innocent beautiful created


+1! And men also possess those "good specialites" if they want to!

8.       MrX67
2540 posts
 22 Aug 2007 Wed 05:11 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting ciko:

Quoting MrX67:

is it easy for a man,while this all good specialites in the nature of women?


none of women i have known so far was real if woman is such a great innocent beautiful created


+1! And men also possess those "good specialites" if they want to!

don't think so about the nature

9.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 22 Aug 2007 Wed 08:01 pm

Quoting catwoman:

we have to realize that, at the present time, it is virtually impossible to say whether they reflect biological inheritance or social conditioning. In fact, males and females are treated differently from birth, and as long as this discrimination continues, their 'unadulterated' character will remain a matter of conjecture.


100% true. you usually have what you built. the society is built on a certain set of traditions. good traditions result in a good society, bad traditions keep society in darkness. if mothers raise their daughters telling them that the priority is a 'getting married' and have children, it results in poor educated group of women, who left schools for the sake of marriage and being a good wife. if they dont marry before the age of 25 they are considered "old girls" not wanted by anyone. (a movie comes to my mind "mona lisa smile" with julia roberts)

Quoting catwoman:

Furthermore, it has been observed that in many 'underdeveloped' countries women function as water bearers and are expected to carry heavy burdens over long distances. Many of them also till the soil or catch fish under the 'supervision' of men who reserve the easier tasks for themselves.


far east!

Quoting catwoman:


Ironically, it is not at all unusual for men to let their wives and daughters do all the hard work while claiming at the same time that women are the 'weaker sex'. Power relationships do not have to make logical sense, and they do not come to an end merely because they do not stand up to reason. After all, in ancient Rome wealthy citizens entrusted the education of their offspring to slaves whom they despised as inferiors, and in more recent times European absolute monarchs used men of 'low birth' to help govern their countries and to demonstrate the superiority of aristocratic rule. From a strictly logical point of view it is difficult to justify the specifics of any gender role division or to explain its widespread acceptance. One can only register the fact that the division exists, and that it often implies the denigration and subjection of women.

Male privilege and female subjection, in turn, distort both the masculine and feminine characters. Many men develop a fanatical, anxious pride in their masculinity which colors and restricts nearly all of their actions. This unhealthy attitude, which to others appears both menacing and ridiculous, is perhaps best described with the Spanish word machismo (from macho: male). Women, on the other hand, have to live up to an unrealistic ideal of 'pure womanhood' which robs them of all initiative and exposes them to the injustice of a sexual double standard.'

Sex and Gender



cato, thank you, good job!

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