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09 Jan 2006 Mon 08:53 am |
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what is the difference for making these 2 questions??
"have you finished yr work?" and "did you finish yr work?"
one more...pls...
when to use "musun" and "misin" for making questions??
thank you~
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09 Jan 2006 Mon 09:13 am |
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The present perfect is used when the time period has NOT finished:
- I have seen three movies this week.(This week has not finished yet)
The present perfect is often used too when giving recent news:
- Fatih has crashed his car again.(This is new information)
The present perfect is used when the time is not specific:
- I have seen that movie already.(We don't know when)
The present perfect is used with for and since, when the actions have not finished yet:
- I have lived in Istanbul for five years(I still live in Istanbul)
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The simple past is used when the time period HAS finished:
- I saw three movies last week. (Last week has finished)
The simple past is used when giving older information:
- Fatih crashed his car last year.(This is old information)
The simple past is used when the time is clear:
- I saw that movie on Thursday.(We know exactly when)
The simple past is used with for and since, when the actions have already finished:
- I lived in Istanbul for five years.(I don't live in Istanbul now)
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09 Jan 2006 Mon 09:18 am |
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how about making questions in turkish with different tenses??
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09 Jan 2006 Mon 01:16 pm |
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There is no present perfect tense in TR. We translate the following sentences into TR as: "Ev ödevini bitirdin mi?"
Did you finish your homework?
Have you finished your homework?
On the other hand we translate the sentence,"I have been teaching TR for ten years", into TR as: "On yıldır Türkçe öğretiyorum".
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09 Jan 2006 Mon 02:08 pm |
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Quoting lululy: when to use "musun" and "misin" for making questions?? |
musun and misin are both formed from the question word mi with the second person possessive suffix -sin added.
Although mi is a seperate word it is considered a suffix and therefore its form follows the vowel harmony rules:
kahve istiyor musun? (present continuous tense)
kahve ister misin?[/i] (aorist tense)
Hope that helps 
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09 Jan 2006 Mon 02:11 pm |
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Quoting bod: Quoting lululy: when to use "musun" and "misin" for making questions?? |
musun and misin are both formed from the question word mi with the second person possessive suffix -sin added.
Although mi is a seperate word it is considered a suffix and therefore its form follows the vowel harmony rules:
kahve istiyor musun? (present continuous tense)
kahve ister misin?[/i] (aorist tense)
Hope that helps |
i need time to understand this...
can you give me more examples??
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09 Jan 2006 Mon 02:20 pm |
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Quoting qdemir: There is no present perfect tense in TR. We translate the following sentences into TR as: "Ev ödevini bitirdin mi?"
Did you finish your homework?
Have you finished your homework?
On the other hand we translate the sentence,"I have been teaching TR for ten years", into TR as: "On yıldır Türkçe öğretiyorum". |
isnt "odevimi bitirmistim" "i have finished my homework"?
if this is the case isnt the "-mist-" used in conjunction with a question suffix? if so, what could that be?
also, to say "i was teaching turkish for 10 years" can you use "Yildir" or is that only for something which is still continuing? maybe "yillik" would be used...?
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09 Jan 2006 Mon 02:22 pm |
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Quoting miss_ceyda: Quoting qdemir: There is no present perfect tense in TR. We translate the following sentences into TR as: "Ev ödevini bitirdin mi?"
Did you finish your homework?
Have you finished your homework?
On the other hand we translate the sentence,"I have been teaching TR for ten years", into TR as: "On yıldır Türkçe öğretiyorum". |
isnt "odevimi bitirmistim" "i have finished my homework"?
if this is the case isnt the "-mist-" used in conjunction with a question suffix? if so, what could that be?
also, to say "i was teaching turkish for 10 years" can you use "Yildir" or is that only for something which is still continuing? maybe "yillik" would be used...? |
 which is the correct one???
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09 Jan 2006 Mon 02:22 pm |
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Quoting lululy: Quoting bod: Quoting lululy: when to use "musun" and "misin" for making questions?? |
musun and misin are both formed from the question word mi with the second person possessive suffix -sin added.
Although mi is a seperate word it is considered a suffix and therefore its form follows the vowel harmony rules:
kahve istiyor musun? (present continuous tense)
kahve ister misin?[/i] (aorist tense)
Hope that helps |
i need time to understand this...
can you give me more examples?? |
geliyor musun?
gelir misin?
bekliyor musun?
bekler misin?
kaliyor musun?
kalir misin?
gidiyor musun?
gider misin?
bakiyor musun?
bakar misin?
hope this helps.. sorry there are no TR characters... im at school! 
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09 Jan 2006 Mon 02:32 pm |
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Quoting lululy: Quoting bod: Quoting lululy: when to use "musun" and "misin" for making questions?? |
musun and misin are both formed from the question word mi with the second person possessive suffix -sin added.
Although mi is a seperate word it is considered a suffix and therefore its form follows the vowel harmony rules:
kahve istiyor musun? (present continuous tense)
kahve ister misin?[/i] (aorist tense)
Hope that helps |
i need time to understand this...
can you give me more examples?? |
Have you read these two lessons?
http://www.turkishclass.com/grammar_vowelHarmony1.htm
http://www.turkishclass.com/grammar_vowelHarmony2.htm
Consider it like this:
If you add the personal possessive suffix -im to köpek (dog) then you get köpekim (my dog) - actually köpeğim but let's just worry about the vowel harmony for now! But if you add the same suffix to domuz (pig) then the 'i' changes to a 'u' so the word becomes domuzum (my pig).
But -mi is a special case and is considered a suffix even though it is not appended to the word. Therefore it still follows the vowel harmony rules and can have the following forms:
-mi -mı -mu -mü
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