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Why do European girls love Turkish man?
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80. |
19 Sep 2007 Wed 03:09 pm |
the word greek makes some turks
and why are you surprised after the history between your countries or not good relationships today?
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19 Sep 2007 Wed 03:15 pm |
Yes your conclusion is fully justifiable now that you consider stereotypes a necessity.
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19 Sep 2007 Wed 03:31 pm |
Mostly because they are easy for casual sex and pay us lots of compliments.
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19 Sep 2007 Wed 03:33 pm |
Sorry, I have read so many of these posts and trying not to offend anyone. I don't really think there is a certain quality that makes a Turk more special or appealing to European women or any other women around the world. Everyone has their own identity and personality. Some are kind, gentle, caring and thoughtful, while others are the complete opposite. I tend to think for women/girls who are on their holiday who meet Turks, it's a new challenge something different than their same culture etc.. Men are men no matter where they live, what culture or religion they are. This just so happens to be a Turkish site, so of course you have women here who are attracted to Turks. Go to an Italian site, you were probably find the same topic. "Why do women love Italians".
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19 Sep 2007 Wed 04:10 pm |
Quoting teaschip1: Sorry, I have read so many of these posts and trying not to offend anyone. I don't really think there is a certain quality that makes a Turk more special or appealing to European women or any other women around the world. Everyone has their own identity and personality. Some are kind, gentle, caring and thoughtful, while others are the complete opposite. I tend to think for women/girls who are on their holiday who meet Turks, it's a new challenge something different than their same culture etc.. Men are men no matter where they live, what culture or religion they are. This just so happens to be a Turkish site, so of course you have women here who are attracted to Turks. Go to an Italian site, you were probably find the same topic. "Why do women love Italians". |
Good point! I agree with you. But excuse me please, because I really don't know so many bridegroom from other countries who married girls from any other countries. I mean the ration of foreigner marriage from Italian (or another country's) man is equal or more than Turkish? I don't know the others because I am not so close to these country news. But I hear many events from Turkey like this, even though not all of them go well.
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19 Sep 2007 Wed 04:36 pm |
Quoting izah: You misunderstand the meaning of my message. If you wan't to discuss what you post here you could better post it at Pam Coo's thread.
I'd like to hear from others what's in the subject:
"Why do European girls love Turkish man?"
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Maybe European guys don't "put out"...
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86. |
19 Sep 2007 Wed 05:44 pm |
Quoting caliptrix: I have some ideas but sure may look funny and unrealistic.
1. Because Turkish boys find European gilrs more desirable and try to do their best for them instead of for Turkish girls.
2. -I hope Europeans won' be offended- European moral values are different from Europeans. Western world want their children more "open minded" and they generally miss the protecting point. Protect from all badnesses of social life. For example, bad addictions cigarette, alcohol, drugs etc. are much more common in Europe, I think it is because of that idea: "being open minded". It generally doesn't work here. We are conservative even though we don't have conservative ideas. And this conservatism makes us pay attention of relations with the people, especially about special relations like with the girlfriends.
I have never been in outside of Turkey but as far as I know from the movies from all over the world -especially Hollywood and European cinema-, this is the most important thing what girls want and boys never want: marry
For us, one of the most important thing is family, and without a marriage, you cannot be a real family. Being together without marriage is a sin according to the belief and also very bad thing for tranditional ideas. When I think and compare these all:
Turkish boys directly wants the girls from the other countries and they show their warm part, behave more sincerely, try to be more kind. Turkish boy always consider that at the end of the story, there will generally be a marriage. And for that reason, this relation must be some more serious (not a one-night-love or short term like in holywood or european movies generally). And when you add the points of the girls wish about the love as generally, this makes the Turkish boys more valued.
I am not sure, as I said this may sound some unrealistic. But day by day, I am getting to accept this stronglier. |
Cali,
This is very well put and I believe you have several valid points. When I read what you have put and then think back .. I see where everything you say has validity. I believe you may be on the right path with this thought process ..
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19 Sep 2007 Wed 06:07 pm |
Quoting izah: That's the protactiveness I mean
Turkeys lover is a different saying of turkish boyfriend.
But your last remark interests me the most: the possesiveness. I noticed people differ on this. Thats what I explained above. In Holland society assumes it's always a bad thing. But lots of people (at least women) just don't agree. Like me. And others who have experienced the possesiveness of a turkish lover and not disliking it. I agree I have an ambivalent feeling about it, but NOT just a bad feeling. There's something good in it for me (what I miss in the west).
p.s It would be easier to talk with you if you let me know what cultures you're familiar with, born/grown up in and (have been) living in...? |
Please Izah, just speak for yourself and don't use big words like 'lots of people in Holland'! You seem to have the idea women in Holland like to be possessed / controlled / have jealous lovers/partners. I am mature, I can take very good care of myselve (even though I make mistakes in love), I don't want to be 'possessed' (like FF said: you can't possess a person) and controlfreaks or over-jealous people are not welcome. So don't count ME in with your 'lots of people' statement.
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19 Sep 2007 Wed 11:16 pm |
Quoting AEnigma III: Mostly because they are easy for casual sex and pay us lots of compliments. |
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19 Sep 2007 Wed 11:26 pm |
Quoting AEnigma III: Mostly because they are easy for casual sex and pay us lots of compliments. |
Boldly stated by the wonderful Aenigma, what an answer
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20 Sep 2007 Thu 12:13 am |
Quoting izah: Quoting caliptrix: they generally miss the protecting point.
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I think your story is a very interesting! I picked out this single line because I really recognize this, for my self and for other woman I know.
Turkish lovers are far more possesive than western lovers. Possesiveness is seen as something bad within a relation (at least in Holland). So everybody does his best to be as less possesive as possible. Jealousy is seen as something to be ashamed of.
But: me and other girls I spoke who have/had a Turkish lover in some way like this possesivness! I think it feels like protection! When we talk about this with eachother we're supprized about our own feelings, because it's in our values not to be possesive: because of the freedom, equality and independent values (wich are the most important ones, at least in Holland).
Are freedom and protection paradoxal? |
I personally think that possessiveness and jealousy are big problems in a relationship, what ever the country of origin and something I will never understand! Why have you just quoted Holland? Possessiveness and jealousy are personality traits which maybe more prevalent in some countries than others. Some people think you can't have love with out either of the two, but I believe you can't have love with them!
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