hey guys, ive been reading the forum and noticed lots of young girls have been commenting on the fact they have turkish boyfriends, i am NOT opposed to this due to the fact ive been to turkey 3 times and am going a 4th this june, but everytime ive been there ive met a turkish guy who is sexy and wants to marry me. most of these people only want a visa,and know us girls will get flattered and might agree to marry them, but some are genuine enough, for example, in july 2005 when i went i met lots of turkih boys and men who paid me lots of attention (which i loved) and i really took 2 1 of them who i still keep in contact, yes, he works in a little bag shop in the summer but this is not his life he studies philosophy, psychology and russian at uni and is going to make something of himself. he is planning to visit me after the summer season this year as he is doing his exams when i go in june, and he has plans to get engaged and finally married after he does his national service in 2 years time. im really proud of him but i really want to warn you that most turkish people are really sweet and go out their ways to satisfy u, but some are quite dodgy, a few men (around mid 30s) kept trying to look down my sisters top and up her skirt, and shes only 12 i mean this is repulsive, but i dont have anything against the place, its amazine and i love it there. good luck to all the girls who have there long distance relationships and i hpe all goes well, but please please be careful. Luv mandz XXXXX

So, all you girls in love with Turkish men, this was Mandy's present. A friendly advice for all of you

**** cleaning up the mess in her thread***

yes we all frends and i feel loads better today xxx

loook xanthea der is nobody who dont agree with me....we all with u...care urself well...and run...

This is for all my turkish and greek friends...

TÃœRK-YUNAN ŞİİRİ by Bülent ECEVİT

sıla derdine düşÃ¼nce anlarsın
yunanlıyla kardeş olduğunu
bir rum şarkısı duyunca gör
gurbet elde istanbul çocuğunu

türkçenin ferah gönlünce küfretmişiz
olmuşuz kanlı bıçaklı
yine de bir sevgidir içimizde
böyle barış günlerinde saklı

bir soyun kanı olmasın varsın
damarlarımızda akan kan
içimizde şu deli rüzgâr
bir havadan

Bu yağmurla cömert
bu güneşle sıcak
gönlümüzden bahar dolusu kopan
iyilikler kucak kucak

bu sudan bu tattandır ikimizde de günah
bütün içkiler gibi zararı kadar leziz
bir iklimin meyvasından sızdırılmış
bir içkidir kötülüklerimiz

aramızda bir mavi büyü
bir sıcak deniz
kıyılarında birbirinden güzel
iki milletiz

bizimle dirilecek bir gün
Ege'nin altın çağı
yanıp yarının ateşinden
eskinin ocağı

önce bir kahkaha çalınır kulağına
sonra rum şiveli türkçeler
o Boğaz'dan söz eder
sen rakıyı hatırlarsın

Yunanlıyla kardeş olduğunu
sıla derdine düşÃ¼nce anlarsın

Londra, 1947

and translated

TURKISH-GREEK POEM


You become aware when you feel homesick
That you are brothers with the Greek;
Just look at a child of Istanbul
Listening to a Greek epic.

We've sworn at each other
In the free manner of our language.
We've drawn knife on blood
Yet a love lies hidden in us
For days of peace like these.

What if in our veins
It were the same blood that flows?
From the same air in our hearts
A crazy wind blows.

So generous like this rain
And warm like the sun.
The armfuls of goodness of spring
That surge from within.

Our hostility is like a drink
Distilled from the fruit of the climate
As harmful and as tasteful as any drink.
From this water from this taste have we sinned.

A blue magic between us
And this warm sea
And two peoples on its shores
Equals in beauty.

The golden age of the Aegean
Will revive through us
As with the fire of the future
The hearth of the past comes alive.

First a merry laughter comes to your ear
Then some Turkish with a Greek accent.
Nostalgic about the Bosporus
And you remember the Raki*.

It is when you are homesick
That you recall you are brothers with the Greek.
London 1947
___________________________________
*Turkish national drink, Raki, is similar to the Greek Ouzo

well done sophie....

good gift for turks and greeks...

Dear Sophie, you deserved a gift too Actually, two gifts from me:

Gift one:

http://www.pbase.com/dosseman/antalya_turkey

Gift two:

CLENCHED SOUL ~ Pablo Neruda

We have lost even this twilight.
No one saw us this evening hand in hand
while the blue night dropped on the world.

I have seen from my window
the fiesta of sunset in the distant mountain tops.

Sometimes a piece of sun
burned like a coin in my hand.

I remembered you with my soul clenched
in that sadness of mine that you know.

Where were you then?
Who else was there?
Saying what?
Why will the whole of love come on me suddenly
when I am sad and feel you are far away?

The book fell that always closed at twilight
and my blue sweater rolled like a hurt dog at my feet.

Always, always you recede through the evenings
toward the twilight erasing statues.

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(Maybe administration could also give you a gift and make this topic visible in New in Forums)

What can i say matia mou? You know exactly how to touch my heart! First Antalya and then this

'I remembered you with my soul clenched
in that sadness of mine that you know.

Where were you then?
Who else was there?
Saying what?
Why will the whole of love come on me suddenly
when I am sad and feel you are far away?'

You are a precious friend. Thank you

Dear Sophie, the pleasure is mine
Besides, kardoula mou, you started first...

i wana give a limitless internet connection and a laptop and a limitless electricity


best thing as a present