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Assyrian and Pontic Greek allegations guessed by Aenigma
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27 Oct 2007 Sat 02:22 am |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting ciko: not Americans..but US Governments have destroyed..Vietnam, Afghanistan, Campodia, Iraq, Korea, Chile, Peru Nicaragua, Honduras, Somali.... shall i go on? |
Just like Ottomans did in their times |
Actually Osmanlı Empire didnt destroy countries nor killed their people ,they invade them and ruled them yes,but never destroyed them.
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27 Oct 2007 Sat 06:17 am |
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Quoting CANLI: Quoting catwoman: Quoting ciko: not Americans..but US Governments have destroyed..Vietnam, Afghanistan, Campodia, Iraq, Korea, Chile, Peru Nicaragua, Honduras, Somali.... shall i go on? |
Just like Ottomans did in their times |
Actually Osmanlı Empire didnt destroy countries nor killed their people ,they invade them and ruled them yes,but never destroyed them. |
Can you please explain the difference then?
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27 Oct 2007 Sat 09:30 am |
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What is "intent to destroy"?
The definitional article included in the 1948 convention stipulates:
Article II
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with
intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group,
as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about
its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
The critical element is the presence of an "intent to destroy", which can be
either "in whole or in part", groups defined in terms of nationality, ethnicity,
race or religion.
Now, when somebody drops atomic bombs on somebody else it is an "intent to destroy", IMHO.
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27 Oct 2007 Sat 09:34 am |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting si++: Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting si++: Now tell me can you see any "intent to destroy" in the Ottoman decision? But I can see it in the American one.
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Does this also apply to the Assyrian and Pontic Greek allegations? I can certainly guess at "intent" for them. What is the "official" view on these events? |
What do you mean? What is your knowledge base regarding those subjects apart from your guess? Let us know. |
Firstly, thank you for honouring me with a separate post for this issue ... (including my name) 
What do I mean? Is my question not clear enough?  I was asking a question - not "guessing" at any answer. I was guessing at their possible reasons, but not stating them!
I raised the question because I was curious about the Turkish offical line on the Pontic Greek and Assyrian "incidents". Do they also not exist in Turkish history? Are they also unfounded allegations? If not, there was certainly the same "intent to destroy" involved that you accuse the USA of. |
When you accuse somebody you should provide some evidence.
When you ask the question, I think you base it on some knowledge, right? What do you know? Let us know. What makes you think we should have an official line on the Pontic Greek and Assyrian "incidents"?
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27 Oct 2007 Sat 12:25 pm |
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Si++ you are so funny! You answer questions with questions always?! (I won't expect an answer to that question - you will just ask another question  ).
I agree with you about your definition of intent to destroy. God knows, there are hundreds of atrocities that have been carried out around the world. However, why do you consistently avoid the subject matter of the thread and start discussing the wrongs of other countries?
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27 Oct 2007 Sat 12:29 pm |
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Quoting si++: When you accuse somebody you should provide some evidence.
When you ask the question, I think you base it on some knowledge, right? What do you know? Let us know.
What makes you think we should have an official line on the Pontic Greek and Assyrian "incidents"? |
(1) I am not accusing anyone - I merely asked a question.
(2) If I ask a question it means I am seeking information. If I have to base a question on some knowledge, then what is the point of asking the question in the first place?!
(3) What makes me wonder about Turkey's "official line" is that I am aware that these, along with the Armenian allegations are taboo subjects in Turkey and so I was curious to find out if these are also considered to be unfounded rumours. I really don't see what your problem with my question is.
(4) I really like the way you always write "important things" in BIG RED LETTERS! 
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28 Oct 2007 Sun 01:18 pm |
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Oh Dear,
I tought you knew something about it. Sometimes I have problems in understanding the native speakers.
Excuse my French. 
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28 Oct 2007 Sun 10:54 pm |
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Quoting si++: Oh Dear,
I tought you knew something about it. Sometimes I have problems in understanding the native speakers.
Excuse my French. |
It may be Love and Apology weekend, but you have nothing to be sorry for!
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