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What's with TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS in Turkey
1.       bab
31 posts
 23 Jan 2006 Mon 04:41 pm

I was having a look at the news in Turkey for today and I came across this one:
Ankara'da Trafik Facias?: 9 Ölü
Otobüs h?z yapt?, servis arac?na çarpt?. Kazada 11 ki?i de yaraland?.



I have never heard about so many traffic accidents anywhere else. It seems road accidents have been a daily occurrence for so long, people no more respond sadly to the news of people killed in such accidents.
Is it that the driving code in Turkey is in a mess. Isn't it time this issue got handled once and for all, by parliament and by the people themselves?

2.       erdinc
2151 posts
 23 Jan 2006 Mon 08:06 pm

The Turkish parliament unfortunately is full with people who think law and punishment has no important role in preventing crime.

A few years ago (maybe five years ago) they released almost all prisoners including those who were charged for murder, rape, robbery, etc. This unreasonableness is really so shocking for reasonable people while it is normal for some folks.

The law system is so nonsense nobody anymore cares about it. If you are driving a bus and were cought drunk there wont be any serious charge that prevents you from doing the same thing again after a while.

If somebody dies in a traffic accident and you were responsible for the accident there will be no serious charge as it was an accident.
If you want to kill somebody you could deliberately do this by hitting the person with your car as this again is only a traffic accident. In many countries they would investigate this as a murder case. Maybe they might have changed the law recently according the EU negotiations but I dont think so.

The lack of the punisment is not helping to reduce the number of accidents and deads. In one celander year I think in Turkey we lose more people than the total of Europe. I havent checked the istatistic but Turkia might be on number on people killed in traffic accidents.
Indeed ıt would be interesting to see the istatistics for the last few years. Does anybody know how many people die in traffic accidents in Turkia in a typical year?

One serious issue that increases the deads is tha public transportation issue. We lack trains. The railway is so increadibly unreliable and so old and so slow, very few people are using it to travel from one city to another. Buses are the main transport system for public transport between cities. Of course the railway being uncomfortable and slow and painful forces many folks to travel with their own cars as well which increases traffic seriously. Again inside cities we dont have a developed tube system and the importance of public transport doesnt seem to catch much attention tough so many deadly accident.

Some uncivilisied people who are in charge to change things unfortunately have not enough respect to law, regulations and these kind things.

A huge percentage of the accidents resulting with dead are caused either by diriving faster than the speed limits or driving drunk. Both issues are not considered as serious thing when you get cought without causing an accident and the people go on doing it untill they kill somebody.

Some regulations are so unreasonable you couldnt believe. Assuming you get cought 3 times for driving drunk in one calendar year. I think in this case they take away your driving lisence for a few years tough I'm not sure for how long. Do you think this is a good punisment to prevent the person from driving drunk and eventually killing somebody? Unfortunately not. Some poeple in this case simply keep driving without a driving lisence and when they are cought without a driving lisence and they are not drunk it is a simple case of driving without a lisence and nothing further applies. Maybe you pay a small fee.
The same applies for driving faster than allowed. They take your lisence if you do it a few times and you drive without a lisence and get cought and pay a small fee.

At the end, unreasonableness, lack of reasonable regulations, week law system, fools in charge and a terrible railway system is what kills thousands of people in Turkia in traffic accidents. Almost every Turk has lost either a relative or a friend in a Traffic accident.

3.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 23 Jan 2006 Mon 08:51 pm

Yes.. i never like when my boyfriend tells me he's going to see his parents in Ankara..i dont know if i prefer him to go by bus or by his own car?! At least i always try to convince him not to drive in the dark if he drives himself..and i prefer when he goes with friends.

Do you think that Turkey will change this system SERIOUSLY to get into the EU?

4.       erdinc
2151 posts
 23 Jan 2006 Mon 09:13 pm

I hope so. There are lots of magandas who think driving fast of driving drunk is something to be proud of.

It would be better if the regualtions hadnt been arranged by magandas to make other magandas feel more comfortable.

I checked the statistics. In 1990's, in 10 years we have lost around 80.000 people in traffic accidents. These days in a typical year around 4.000 people in Turkia die in traffic accidents.
I don't know the figures in European countries that are comparable to Turkia in population.

edit: I found a webpage with statistics from IDRAT (International Road Traffic and Accident Data) with some disagreeing comments about the official figures showing 4000. They say actually the number of deads is around 9000.

2003 values:
http://www.driveandstayalive.com/info%20section/statistics/stats-multicountry-percapita-2003.htm

2004 values
http://www.driveandstayalive.com/info%20section/statistics/stats-multicountry-percapita-2004.htm

I'm surprised to see we are doing better than USA and Greece.

5.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 23 Jan 2006 Mon 09:45 pm

Ok i just checked the Dutch statistics..

In Holland died 881 persons in trafficaccidents in 2004. In 2003 and this number was 1088.. so let's say 985 persons per year.

985 over 16.5 million inhabitants.


Someone who knows the population of Turkey and who is good at maths good clear this up for us n compare?

6.       erdinc
2151 posts
 23 Jan 2006 Mon 09:58 pm

The two tables above show Netherlands the safest place after Malta. UK is also close to the top.
Netherlands has a death rate under 5 which means death per 100.000 per year in road traffic accidents. Turkia has a rate of 13 while USA and Greece have around 15.

7.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 23 Jan 2006 Mon 10:07 pm

In USA people are allowed to get their drivers licence younger tho.. we can start theory at 17 and driving at 18.. in America u can start driving at 16.. maybe that's just too young, eventho US landscape is less close than ours.

Im not surprised by the Greek numbers tho, they are speeddevils as well.. and im sure ouzo gets many men drunk as well

8.       yabanci09
56 posts
 23 Jan 2006 Mon 10:19 pm

I think in Turkey everyone knows of atleast one person who has died in a traffic accident.

9.       susie k
1330 posts
 14 Aug 2006 Mon 08:30 pm

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