http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_7090000/newsid_7097500/7097587.stm?bw=bb&mp=rm&asb=1&news=1

Yes, yet another thread is going out of control.

sorry to ruin your thread, vino. we should stop commenting on your threads. then you ll have clean and nice threads.

Teaschip1:
In the aftermath of the US invasion of Iraq, the Italian Prime Minister of the time said something very interesting: the US concept for civilization is very different from the European one. Before we come up with any suggestions about how the cops should have treated the Polish guy, we must keep that point in mind.

The US people prefer a strong government and that may have something to do with why you also raved about the heights of people in another thread. That also have something to do with why you will not have a female/black president in the foreseeable future. Your next president is guaranteed to be an affluent, conservative, tall, handsome white guy who would not be afraid of bullying third world countries and telling everyone else who the boss is. Because US people prefer a coercive government, cowboy males and male like females.

That tall, handsome, white president will indeed hold the US flag high all around the world by bombing a few countries every now and then. He will come up with new enemies whenever he wants to make sure that his nation stands together firmly. Is there anything wrong with that at all? As long as we hold on to the US point of view there is nothing wrong with that. Nonetheless, from a European perspective,this whole thing is simply intolarable (well at least except in everyone else other than the US.) They simply don't want to have such governments in Europe but they have to put up with the US their economic priorities making it necessary. This is plain cut hypocrisy. (This must not be confused with anti-americanism, only government policies are referred here).

Now returning to what the cops should have done and how they could stop that guy without hurting themselves. We are talking about three cops and one armless man. No matter how angry he is, he could be appeased or taken by the arms and transported to a safer location did they actually want to do that. Why do you think they did not prefer to appease the guy? They did not care about the guy at all. All that mattered at that moment was a proper display of their authority and coercion.

In Turkey a traffic police will not ask you to get out of your car at the gun point just because you violated a traffic rule. He will not demand complete surrender or a submissive attitude. He will call you "Sir" or "Madam"; and will notify you of your fault and write a ticket and leave.