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Womens Shelter in Istanbul
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20.       kafesteki kus
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 26 Nov 2007 Mon 01:02 am

Alpha F or Omega or all greek alphabet,I do not mind discuss frankists with you)))))

21.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 26 Nov 2007 Mon 01:03 am

Quoting MarioninTurkey:



a) It is in Todays Zaman - which as Alpha F points out is a newspaper published by a more religious media group



I would think twice on this opinion.

I have never seen ZAMAN stand up against moslems being bombarded in Afghanistan or in Iraq...Seems weird, unless ZAMAN also believes it was time moslems got a good bombardment.

22.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 26 Nov 2007 Mon 01:09 am

Quoting kafesteki kus:

Alpha F or Omega or all greek alphabet,I do not mind discuss frankists with you)))))



Glad we have an expert among us ! There is so much I need to learn on the issue...

Can you relate Frank Jacob's preachings (300 years ago) with LGBT Movement led by Amnesty International (today)?

23.       kafesteki kus
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 26 Nov 2007 Mon 01:10 am

weird!yesterday I watched Rambo 3 ..again...and the end of the film...in the homage of afghan nation)))Irony!!!Russians left=Americans still!!!Rambo!Where r u????

24.       kafesteki kus
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 26 Nov 2007 Mon 01:19 am

Quoting AlphaF:

Quoting kafesteki kus:

Alpha F or Omega or all greek alphabet,I do not mind discuss frankists with you)))))



Glad we have an expert among us ! There is so much I need to learn on the issue...

Can you relate Frank Jacob's preachings (300 years ago) with LGBT Movement led by Amnesty International (today)?


ohh,too late to go into details,and next time state your views clearly,pls!I am an expert on General Franco...his supporters are known worldwide as frankists ..not Frank jacob's...misunderstanding!!!we need to cooperate more!Anyway,no women's rights in Gen.Franco's times...see you
goodnight

25.       portokal
2516 posts
 26 Nov 2007 Mon 01:36 am

while frankists were looking at Napoleon as a potential messiah somewhere in the nearby hassids considered his expansion the attack of gog and magog )))))))))

LGBT beats me

goodnight TC )))

26.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 26 Nov 2007 Mon 01:43 am

Frankists were jolly and crafty fellows, in the philosophy they preached.

Lesbian
Gay
Bisexual
Transexual

LGBT

27.       portokal
2516 posts
 26 Nov 2007 Mon 01:51 am

looks like i have to emit an opinion on hermafrodits.

28.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 26 Nov 2007 Mon 01:57 am

You can hardly speculate on Amnesty International's LGBT Movement, or two priests marriying or fights to legalize marriage between members of the same sex...etc., unless you are familiar with Frankists.

29.       kafesteki kus
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 26 Nov 2007 Mon 11:17 am

Quoting portokal:

looks like i have to emit an opinion on hermafrodits.


Porto))), do not forget bigamists,poligamists and black widows,alcoholics,tramps,rebels,etc....

Seriously speaking I wonder why some men so strongly oppose women's rights.Have they read the latest book of Bryan Sykes,Oxford genetics professor?
http://www.wfs.org/trend2ma05.htm

30.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 26 Nov 2007 Mon 06:25 pm

Quoting MarioninTurkey:

I found the article fascinating, not just because I agree with the topic of women's shelters (Mor Çatı has been doing a wonderful work here formany many years) but also:

a) It is in Todays Zaman - which as Alpha F points out is a newspaper published by a more religious media group

and

b) some fascianting quotes e.g.:

In just three hours, around 300 signatures were collected. ..Several women expressed their surprise at seeing male activists engaged in the topic. “It is very nice that men also show their support for the issue,” said Zeynep, 56.

“It is mostly older women who are aware of the problem,” says AI-Turkey member Özlem Çolak (24), adding that headscarved women in particular are very open to discussing the situation. “They always listen and often sign,” she said. “The younger women, though, often wave it off and do not take the issue seriously.”

Interestingly, some women refused to sign but accepted a gift the activists had prepared: a small hand mirror on which the phone number of a women’s helpline, Mor Çatı, was written.



Interestingly enough, the same is true of women in the US. Older women are more likely to listen and ask for help. In my opinion, it is because at this point their children are grown and they feel a little more secure in leaving. Younger women will take your information but will often shrug you off.

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