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Turkish and or muslim dress
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18 Dec 2007 Tue 09:46 pm |
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Quoting teaschip1: Quoting Elisabeth: If you want to wear a scarf, Sera, that is your business. I will never put a scarf on to be taken seriously. If a place or occasion demanded that I wear one, I would not go. If my husbands family does not understand that, that's just to bad. I respect their right to wear one...I would never ask them not to. They are invited to functions in my family regardless of how they dress. If they feel uncomfortable, they can certainly decline. I do understand what your saying Sera, but I have lived long enough in this world to know that there are somethings I can never compromise...I can compromise about not having pork in my house and how strong the coffee is but I will never ever compromise on hijab. If I am not welcome as I am...I will not go. |
Well said you strong minded bed Amerikan...My thoughts exactely, I completely agree. |
Bence de!!!! We bed western feminists  
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18 Dec 2007 Tue 10:05 pm |
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Quoting SERA_2005: Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting SERA_2005: it is mearly an expression to my partner that i understand,respect and often enjoy experiencing his culture and religion. |
did you enjoy his culture and religion? |
Absolutely and i am still doing. |
you should be enjoying this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ipvSiO1rgo
this is pure eastern without any mixture of western.
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18 Dec 2007 Tue 10:11 pm |
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this is the europe of europeans like sera!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESNyAfUJSuU&feature=user
europeans imposed such punishment on themselves!
and goodbye europe! goodbye the civilization!
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19 Dec 2007 Wed 09:53 am |
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Quote: Quoting Elisabeth: Covering up doesn't stop men thinking about sex ! Proven by this weeks news headline of an completely covered Saudi woman being raped and then sentenced to 200 lashes ! |
We all know she is far from the first to have this happen and will hardly be the last. It's disgusting and twisted!  |
Good news on this front...she has reportedly been pardoned by the King.
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19 Dec 2007 Wed 09:56 am |
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Quoting SERA_2005:
I don't see wearing the scarf as demeaning.Quite the opposite,i know he likes me to dress modestly which doesnt bother me at all because i do anyway.However if i wanted to wear something he didnt 100% approve of i would! He would never tell me how to dress just as i don't tell him how to.However i do believe in a little compromise for example if he was to point out to me that we were attending an occasion which he and his family felt demanded that i wear a scarf then i would of course.I am not saying that one can control the thoughts of another human being however whats the harm in dressing so decrease the liklihood that sexual thoughts will be in the mind.I want to be taken seriously just as much as the next person does, not to have someone staring at my boobs because i choose to display them like a pair of prize melons.However as i have said previously i fully support a woman who wishes to dress in that way as it is her choice. |
Your fiance and his family demand that you wear a scarf and you don't consider that demeaning? Demand? 
I am interested to hear what your fiance does to show his respect for you....and how is it that you 'know he likes†you to dress modestly? He has told you, no? Does he know that you have posted pictures here all made up and wearing false eyelashes? I wonder what he would think of that!
To me compromise is for things like where to go to dinner, who’s turn it is to pick the radio station in the car, or what to watch on TV....not what I wear, my religious beliefs or who I am!!!
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19 Dec 2007 Wed 12:34 pm |
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Quoting girleegirl: Quoting SERA_2005:
I don't see wearing the scarf as demeaning.Quite the opposite,i know he likes me to dress modestly which doesnt bother me at all because i do anyway.However if i wanted to wear something he didnt 100% approve of i would! He would never tell me how to dress just as i don't tell him how to.However i do believe in a little compromise for example if he was to point out to me that we were attending an occasion which he and his family felt demanded that i wear a scarf then i would of course.I am not saying that one can control the thoughts of another human being however whats the harm in dressing so decrease the liklihood that sexual thoughts will be in the mind.I want to be taken seriously just as much as the next person does, not to have someone staring at my boobs because i choose to display them like a pair of prize melons.However as i have said previously i fully support a woman who wishes to dress in that way as it is her choice. |
Your fiance and his family demand that you wear a scarf and you don't consider that demeaning? Demand?
I am interested to hear what your fiance does to show his respect for you....and how is it that you 'know he likes†you to dress modestly? He has told you, no? Does he know that you have posted pictures here all made up and wearing false eyelashes? I wonder what he would think of that!
To me compromise is for things like where to go to dinner, who’s turn it is to pick the radio station in the car, or what to watch on TV....not what I wear, my religious beliefs or who I am!!!
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Excuse me how dare you.If you read my previous posts more carefully you will see that i said if the situation demands a scarf i would wear one not if my fiance did!! Perhaps a little more careful reading is in order before you write such rude insulting posts and please while we are on the subject if you have a problem with what i am saying then send me a personal message rather than writing it on here then we can talk about it like sensible adults rather than kids!He would never demand anything of me or anyone else for that matter.And as for making personal comments well i am not even going to go there,i will post what i like thank you very much and i won't be spoken to like that.
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19 Dec 2007 Wed 12:50 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting SERA_2005: Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting SERA_2005: it is mearly an expression to my partner that i understand,respect and often enjoy experiencing his culture and religion. |
did you enjoy his culture and religion? |
Absolutely and i am still doing. |
you should be enjoying this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ipvSiO1rgo
this is pure eastern without any mixture of western.
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If you are insinuating that the Islamic culture or religion is in any way promoting violence or having anything to do with viewing terrorism in a positive light then you are totally incorrect and acting in a very irresponsible and offensive way.Islam means peace.Its only the view of ignorant western people that suggest it is anything otherwise.Oh and just incase anyone didnt know terrorism started long before 9/11.
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19 Dec 2007 Wed 01:03 pm |
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Quoting SERA_2005: If you are insinuating that the Islamic culture or religion is in any way promoting violence or having anything to do with viewing terrorism in a positive light then you are totally incorrect and acting in a very irresponsible and offensive way.Islam means peace.Its only the view of ignorant western people that suggest it is anything otherwise.Oh and just incase anyone didnt know terrorism started long before 9/11. |
I am very surprised to hear this Sera from you. What you are saying is just wishful thinking... Tell me, do you think that Christianity in Middle Ages was in any way responsible for the crusades or burning people on stocks for "heretic ideas" and "witchcraft"? I hope you say yes... The situation with Islam these days is EXACTLY the same.
Sera, have you watched the video foamy posted? How in a world do you explain this situation then? A little tiny reason to think that islam IS responsible for the barbaric behavior of muslim immigrants in Europe would be the fact that THEY SAY IT IS!
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19 Dec 2007 Wed 01:05 pm |
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Quoting SERA_2005: Excuse me how dare you.If you read my previous posts more carefully you will see that i said if the situation demands a scarf i would wear one not if my fiance did!! Perhaps a little more careful reading is in order before you write such rude insulting posts and please while we are on the subject if you have a problem with what i am saying then send me a personal message rather than writing it on here then we can talk about it like sensible adults rather than kids!He would never demand anything of me or anyone else for that matter.And as for making personal comments well i am not even going to go there,i will post what i like thank you very much and i won't be spoken to like that. |
Sera, why did you get so upset, girleegirl - I think - was expressing her views towards a certain attitude or behavior, not YOU as a person. Especially if you know that your situation is not what girleegirl thought it was, I don't see why you got offended...
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19 Dec 2007 Wed 02:27 pm |
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Quoting SERA_2005:
If you are insinuating that the Islamic culture or religion is in any way promoting violence or having anything to do with viewing terrorism in a positive light then you are totally incorrect and acting in a very irresponsible and offensive way.Islam means peace.Its only the view of ignorant western people that suggest it is anything otherwise.Oh and just incase anyone didnt know terrorism started long before 9/11. |
sera
give me no shit.
its not definetly you who would teach me about islam.
i know the islam much better from inside unlike you ignorant westerner!
i really have no wish to speak to the wall.
i have no patience, let the others do it, they are more polite and patient.
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19 Dec 2007 Wed 03:17 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting SERA_2005:
If you are insinuating that the Islamic culture or religion is in any way promoting violence or having anything to do with viewing terrorism in a positive light then you are totally incorrect and acting in a very irresponsible and offensive way.Islam means peace.Its only the view of ignorant western people that suggest it is anything otherwise.Oh and just incase anyone didnt know terrorism started long before 9/11. |
sera
give me no shit.
its not definetly you who would teach me about islam.
i know the islam much better from inside unlike you ignorant westerner!
i really have no wish to speak to the wall.
i have no patience, let the others do it, they are more polite and patient. |
I was not or will ever give you shit,as you put it.I was simply pointing out that the opinion that Islam is a faith with is in support of terrorist activities and believes in such terrible things is just not factually correct.Islam is a peaceful religion.There are however a small minority of extremists who wish to corrupt the religion and take part in negative/illegal activities in its name thus making many think that this behaviour is representative of the whole religion when it is not.I may be western but by no means am i ignorant.
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