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Grammer question
1.       dbrugman
5 posts
 05 Jul 2005 Tue 02:22 pm

While studying Turkish, I came across the
following '-(i)mtrak' suffix:

sarı - yellow
sarımtrak - yellowish

kırmızı - red
kırmızımtrak - reddish

etc

Proud of my new knowledge, I tried using
it while speaking with some Turkish people
(who were not born in Turkey btw) - but they
never heard of this suffix.

So my question is: is this a valid suffix?
If so, might it be that is is only used in very
formal or written texts? Or is it just old-fashioned?

Many thanks!

2.       Anatolian
21 posts
 05 Jul 2005 Tue 04:50 pm

Hi

it is very rear suffix in turkish which we do not use in daily conversations at all. So it is very normal that the people who were actuaklly born in Turkey and learnt the language via the ear (!) (in the family environment) may not be familiar with this structure.

When you define colors those are different tones of a certain color, you can use -mtrak suffix. Sarimtram means a different tone of the color yellow. Might me either darker yellow or lighter one.

Hope I could be helpful.
Regards

Tay "FUN"

3.       Anatolian
21 posts
 05 Jul 2005 Tue 04:55 pm

SORRY I have not reviewed my answer and found several mistakes that might cause misunderstandings.So i will resend my answer

Hi

it is very rear suffix in turkish which we do not use in daily conversations at all. So it is very normal that the turkish speaking people who were not actually born in Turkey and learnt the language via the ear (!) (in the family environment) may not be familiar with this structure.

When you define colors those are different tones of a certain color, you can use -mtrak suffix. Sarimtram means a different tone of the color yellow. Might be either darker yellow (SARI) or lighter one. KIRMIZIMTRAK has the same meaning for the color red (KIRMIZI).

Hope I could be helpful.
Regards

4.       dbrugman
5 posts
 05 Jul 2005 Tue 05:16 pm

Many thanks, this explains a lot.
Indeed, the people whom I asked this learned
the language 'via the ear' from their family,
and not at school.

Thanks again!

5.       erdinc
2151 posts
 08 Jul 2005 Fri 02:06 pm

there is also another suffix with the same meaning: -sı

sarımsı : somewhat yellow

kırmızımsı : somewhat red


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