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1580.       lesluv
722 posts
 27 Nov 2008 Thu 05:31 am

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/nov/26/uk-crime-father-rape-sentenced

 

A father who made his two daughters pregnant 19 times during almost 30 years of repeated rape and physical abuse was given 25 life sentences last night, and will serve a minimum of 19-and-a-half-years in prison. The man, who cannot be named to protect the identity of his daughters, fathered nine children with them, two of whom died at birth. The other 10 pregnancies were miscarried or terminated.

He pleaded guilty last month to 25 counts of rape, dating from the early 1980s and continuing until this year, when the terrified women finally mustered the courage to seek help.

Jayne Ludlam, director of children´s and young people´s services at Sheffield city council, said social workers had become aware of the "harrowing" abuse in June, and that an independent review into the case had already been launched.

In a case with echoes of the Austrian man Josef Fritzl, who imprisoned his daughter in an underground dungeon for 24 years and fathered seven children with her, Sheffield crown court heard how the man, who is 56 and divorced, began abusing the sisters when they were between eight and 10, and that they were badly beaten to make them comply.

He "took pleasure" in assaulting the girls, the court had heard, and the violent attacks would stop only while the children were pregnant. "His younger daughter told of the frightening habit her father had of putting her head next to the flames of their gas fire and that when she struggled to get away on certain occasions she burnt her eyes," Nicholas Campbell QC, prosecuting, told the court. They were kept out of school when their injuries were visible, and the family moved repeatedly to avoid suspicion. The girls´ mother left home in the early 1990s; a brother also lived with them until his teens.

The court heard that in 1988 suspicions were raised at the victims´ school due to their injuries but these were blamed on bullying. On one occasion one of the women was asked by a doctor if her father was the father of her own children, which she flatly denied. They also called Childline, the court was told, and asked for a guarantee that their children would not be taken away, but hung up when this assurance could not be given.

Sentencing, Judge Alan Goldsack QC said: "The phrase ´it is difficult to imagine a worse case´ is much overused and rarely, if ever, true. But I can say that in nearly 40 years of dealing with criminal cases and 14 as a family judge the combination of aggravating circumstances here is the worst I have come across."

Ludlam said: "Due to the seriousness of this case an independent review has already been launched which will look into the circumstances surrounding the case and the contact the agencies had with the victims."

 

 

 

Pure evil, I still can´t believe what a silencer fear is{#lang_emotions_confused}

1581.       libralady
5152 posts
 27 Nov 2008 Thu 11:14 am

 

Quoting lesluv

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/nov/26/uk-crime-father-rape-sentenced

 

A father who made his two daughters pregnant 19 times during almost 30 years of repeated rape and physical abuse was given 25 life sentences last night, and will serve a minimum of 19-and-a-half-years in prison. The man, who cannot be named to protect the identity of his daughters, fathered nine children with them, two of whom died at birth. The other 10 pregnancies were miscarried or terminated.

He pleaded guilty last month to 25 counts of rape, dating from the early 1980s and continuing until this year, when the terrified women finally mustered the courage to seek help.

Jayne Ludlam, director of children´s and young people´s services at Sheffield city council, said social workers had become aware of the "harrowing" abuse in June, and that an independent review into the case had already been launched.

In a case with echoes of the Austrian man Josef Fritzl, who imprisoned his daughter in an underground dungeon for 24 years and fathered seven children with her, Sheffield crown court heard how the man, who is 56 and divorced, began abusing the sisters when they were between eight and 10, and that they were badly beaten to make them comply.

He "took pleasure" in assaulting the girls, the court had heard, and the violent attacks would stop only while the children were pregnant. "His younger daughter told of the frightening habit her father had of putting her head next to the flames of their gas fire and that when she struggled to get away on certain occasions she burnt her eyes," Nicholas Campbell QC, prosecuting, told the court. They were kept out of school when their injuries were visible, and the family moved repeatedly to avoid suspicion. The girls´ mother left home in the early 1990s; a brother also lived with them until his teens.

The court heard that in 1988 suspicions were raised at the victims´ school due to their injuries but these were blamed on bullying. On one occasion one of the women was asked by a doctor if her father was the father of her own children, which she flatly denied. They also called Childline, the court was told, and asked for a guarantee that their children would not be taken away, but hung up when this assurance could not be given.

Sentencing, Judge Alan Goldsack QC said: "The phrase ´it is difficult to imagine a worse case´ is much overused and rarely, if ever, true. But I can say that in nearly 40 years of dealing with criminal cases and 14 as a family judge the combination of aggravating circumstances here is the worst I have come across."

Ludlam said: "Due to the seriousness of this case an independent review has already been launched which will look into the circumstances surrounding the case and the contact the agencies had with the victims."

 

 

 

Pure evil, I still can´t believe what a silencer fear is{#lang_emotions_confused}

 

 There are no words to decribe adequately what a monster this man is.  How did this escape the attention of so many people?

1582.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 27 Nov 2008 Thu 11:37 am

That´s the thing. People choose not to see such things because it´s easier to live in ignorance. How many of you would call the police if you suspected something was wrong with your neighbours. How many would react hearing a fight next door or seeing a parent shake or beat their child in the street?

1583.       libralady
5152 posts
 27 Nov 2008 Thu 12:42 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

That´s the thing. People choose not to see such things because it´s easier to live in ignorance. How many of you would call the police if you suspected something was wrong with your neighbours. How many would react hearing a fight next door or seeing a parent shake or beat their child in the street?

 

 I mean doctors, teachers etc etc  Surely someone in authority would questions why the girls were have so many children with out a father so to speak, and what about all the abortions they had between them?  This is what puzzles me.  They could easily not be noticed by neighbours when they were moved around regularly, and of course in some places people don´t even know their neighbours let along notice what they are getting up to.

 

The whole situation is dreadfully sad and I hope these girls and their children can move on with their lives.

1584.       alameda
3499 posts
 27 Nov 2008 Thu 04:53 pm

 

Quoting lesluv

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/nov/26/uk-crime-father-rape-sentenced

 

A father who made his two daughters pregnant 19 times during almost 30 years of repeated rape and physical abuse was given 25 life sentences last night, and will serve a minimum of 19-and-a-half-years in prison. The man, who cannot be named to protect the identity of his daughters, fathered nine children with them, two of whom died at birth. The other 10 pregnancies were miscarried or terminated.

 

He pleaded guilty last month to 25 counts of rape, dating from the early 1980s and continuing until this year, when the terrified women finally mustered the courage to seek help.

 

Pure evil, I still can´t believe what a silencer fear is{#lang_emotions_confused}

And on that same page was this:

 


David Brown: Paedofile who ran an orphanage

 

British charity worker David Brown has been sentenced to 20 years in jail for sexually abusing children in his care at an orphanage he opened in Tirana, Albania, in 2001. Here is footage of Brown, a charity worker from Edinburgh and an evangelical Christian, taken from videos made to promote the work of the orphanage, which he called His Children

 

Ahh...what is happening in this world?

 

1585.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 27 Nov 2008 Thu 05:00 pm

 

Quoting alameda

 

Ahh...what is happening in this world?

 

 The same thing that has happened all through history Alameda.  The big difference now is that it is SPOKEN ABOUT (in most countries) and people are convicted of these vile acts.

 

1586.       femmeous
2642 posts
 27 Nov 2008 Thu 05:47 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

That´s the thing. People choose not to see such things because it´s easier to live in ignorance. How many of you would call the police if you suspected something was wrong with your neighbours. How many would react hearing a fight next door or seeing a parent shake or beat their child in the street?

 

 i do. and i always get in trouble.

1587.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 27 Nov 2008 Thu 05:56 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 i do. and i always get in trouble.

 

 

Thank goodness there are people like you who dont worry about causing offence where such things are concerned 

 

(The rest of the offence you cause is inexcusable)

1588.       libralady
5152 posts
 27 Nov 2008 Thu 09:01 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

Thank goodness there are people like you who dont worry about causing offence where such things are concerned 

 

(The rest of the offence you cause is inexcusable)

 

 OK, We will carry on the subject of putting your self at risk to help someone.  I did just that tonight, on the way home from the Gym........... a man lying on the footpath, his bike by his side, so I go to the nect junction and turn around.  I pull up beside the man, and wind down my window, "what is wrong " I shout, " have you had an accident"  he is holding his head with the most vacant look on his face, and then I notice the mobile phone in his hand..................... I suddenly realised he is not on this planet, he was so high on drugs I am sure he did now know which planet he was on either!  At least I could drive on knowing that I had not left a man that could have been dying.................

1589.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 27 Nov 2008 Thu 09:05 pm

 

Quoting libralady

 OK, We will carry on the subject of putting your self at risk to help someone.  I did just that tonight, on the way home from the Gym........... a man lying on the footpath, his bike by his side, so I go to the nect junction and turn around.  I pull up beside the man, and wind down my window, "what is wrong " I shout, " have you had an accident"  he is holding his head with the most vacant look on his face, and then I notice the mobile phone in his hand..................... I suddenly realised he is not on this planet, he was so high on drugs I am sure he did now know which planet he was on either!  At least I could drive on knowing that I had not left a man that could have been dying.................

 

 Ouh hell that happened to me recently too!!!  I left home at 6.30am one morning and a man was lying on the footpath.  A woman in front of me stepped over him (!!!).  I rushed over to him, mobile in hand, ready to call an ambulance and found he was absolutely high on drugs!  I decided against offering him in for tea though, but told him it was a bit cold to lay on concrete and that he should go home!!!

1590.       lady in red
6947 posts
 27 Nov 2008 Thu 09:08 pm

 

Quoting libralady

 OK, We will carry on the subject of putting your self at risk to help someone. 

 

I must have missed something - carry on from where?

 

BTW that was a risky thing to do in this day and age.

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