No im not surprised because of that..its really a good thing that people can live and are living peacefuly together

What im surprised and shocked at is the Church ...they said they spread love, and they wanted to teach that to people, but seems people are the one who should teach them that and know about peace more than church does !

Double standards, Canli. You are silent when Islamic hatred is mentioned. I can quote examples of massive islamic demonstrations full of hatred and violence, and I can imagine you defending them. Isn´t Islam supposed to spread peace and love as well? As long as I see double standards like that, I will not sympatize with you (I will still condemn hatred and stupidity, but I am fully aware that it runs among your people very well too). I am not going to sympatize with you until you start treating all people equally -- violence and hatred of muslims against non-muslims is equally wrong as violence and hatred of non-muslims against muslims.

 Actually cat, you´ in general´ do enough, even you dont even give us that chance to sympatize with you!

You condemn, judge us from the start, and your post is a prove of that, so was your comment at Marwa´s death too.

Ý dont recall that i ever encourage any islamic hatred action nor supported them so that would you accuse me of double standerd...have i ?!

And i also didnt ask that you express your sympathy or not, you can even support it ...it´s actually your business.

Ý dont understand why do you attack me for , i didnt say violence against none muslims is acceptable But on the other hand you justify violence when done by your people always same way!

My comment/post was about the church action there vs people action

Hmmmm which i dont know would i call them my people or your people by your standerds...they were Muslims, Christians, Jewish..ect 

So i must ask, what did you mean by ´my people?´

Canli, maybe I am very wrong about you, for which I apologize, but I think I remember you defending or being silent on news of crimes of Muslims. That is my only point.

I was trying to say something similar to Elizabeth, where she said:

"My heart is troubled though, Canli.....troubled that this site is used as a tool, not to discuss a hate crime and how terrible it is, but for certain groups to "prove" how they are being treated badly, misunderstood, ect......I am sure if I googled "hate crimes against Christians" (or against women, or against anyone) I would find some horrible article to "prove" that the world hates Christians (or whoever) and we could argue about how the world hates Muslims more....but enough already."

I feel the same way as she does -- that it´s about being Muslim, not about being a human that matters here most. Which is why I said that if it´s the other way round, some people find it acceptable, or defensible when a crime happens and it´s committed by a Muslim person!!

You should criticize this abhorrent event on teh base of it being a hate crime against human people, whether they were muslim or not!

That point aside, I think that we have a clear example here of how intolerant and judgmental religions are -- examples like this one are common across all religions. It is a shame that our common humanity is not standing above these religious divisions.

Monster 20 ft waves hitting California...Oh I hope GG didn´t go out boogie boarding today..  Has anyone heard from her?

 You know that Tuesday is her sky diving day!!!!

 I was hoping it was the day she usually goes sky diving or four wheeling.  Thursday´s must be boogie boarding and Friday´s big game fishing.   Did you see her last month on the cover of Game & Fish?  She is such the athlete...you make us proud GG.

 Yes, it is sky diving day but those waves were so rad I just had to hit the surf too, so I glided my chute right down onto my boogie board and road the tide!  Awesome! 

 After reading about all these exciting hobbies you ladies are participatiing in I thought it was time to try some thing new and exciting........

woohoo

may need a practice partner hee hee

 You can always ask Mr. Lessluv, can´t you?

 He´s not too keen on water sports