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4460.       Trudy
7887 posts
 13 Feb 2010 Sat 11:52 am

Wow! What a stunning view, this frozen waterfall

4461.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 13 Feb 2010 Sat 12:03 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

Is this group right or are the moaning? Body scans - not my favourite idea as well - are invented and placed because of increasing terrorism. Should we accept them then, should we stop travelling or is the alternative of a (thorough!) search enough? 

 

 They are moaning. The body scan is first checked by a computer. Only when the computer notices something that is out of the ordinary, a human is called to check the person. If it´s a woman who´s scanned, a woman will check her. If it´s a man who´s scanned, a man will check him.

In Islam it is not "forbidden" or something for a professional to see you naked. How else can you be checked by your doctor? And the scans don´t look like you are literally standing their naked. It´s not like porn or something. The image is strange looking, without colour.

Anyway, if I had to choose between a computer checking my image, or a woman touching my body, I choose the computer. I prefer people not touching my body like that! I think these people are moaning, since they already have the choice to say yes or no. Why make it a fatwa? Islam was formed as an open religion, that people by themselves could practice, without having to speak out a rule for every little thing. It always left room for people to make up their own minds.... and now... a fatwa on a body scanner, and a fatwa that needs a high level of critique in my opinion... it´s silly!

4462.       Yersu
241 posts
 13 Feb 2010 Sat 12:10 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 

Airport body scanners violate Islamic law, Muslims say

 

Saying that body scanners violate Islamic law, Muslim-American groups are supporting a “fatwa” – a religious ruling – that forbids Muslims from going through the scanners at airports.

 

The Fiqh Council of North America – a body of Islamic scholars that includes some from Michigan – issued a fatwa this week that says going through the airport scanners would violate Islamic rules on modesty.

 

“It is a violation of clear Islamic teachings that men or women be seen naked by other men and women,” reads the fatwa issued Tuesday. “Islam highly emphasizes haya (modesty) and considers it part of faith. The Quran has commanded the believers, both men and women, to cover their private parts.”

 

 

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Is this group right or are the moaning? Body scans - not my favourite idea as well - are invented and placed because of increasing terrorism. Should we accept them then, should we stop travelling or is the alternative of a (thorough!) search enough? 

 

What a load of bs... Someone has to bring these Islamist crackheads to line. I am afraid with the way things are going now, these people will alienate themselves and agitate others more and more. When it all comes cracking down, the progressive and humanitarian Muslims, which I think are the only real Muslims anyway, will also be a target.

4463.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 13 Feb 2010 Sat 03:34 pm

A court in drought-plagued Malawi has jailed a man accused of casting a spell that blocked rain from falling on his neighbour´s field, police say.

The court sentenced Chikumbeni Mwanatheu, 35, to two months in prison with hard labour after he admitted a charge of witchcraft, police spokesman Augustus Nkhwazi said.

Mwanatheu had pleaded guilty to a charge of "conduct likely to cause a breach of peace" after he boasted that he had prevented rain from falling on his neighbour´s field, the spokesman said.

 

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I wouldn´t mind having him sent here, we could do with a few weeks without rain in Ireland lol

4464.       Trudy
7887 posts
 13 Feb 2010 Sat 08:59 pm

Father forces his toddler daughter to recite the Koran.

 

http://www.atheistmedia.com/2010/02/toddler-forced-to-recite-koran.html

 

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Some parents shouldn´t have had kids! (And yes, I would protest as hard as it weren´t the Koran but another holy book but as the talk show host proudly announces: ´only Muslim children can do this.´ {#emotions_dlg.head_bang}

4465.       alameda
3499 posts
 15 Feb 2010 Mon 02:52 am

 

Quoting Trudy

Wow! What a stunning view, this frozen waterfall

 

Amazing and beautiful. Thank you for the link.

4466.       alameda
3499 posts
 15 Feb 2010 Mon 03:21 am

naked body scan

 

Well you may not mind, but I certainly mind. When is enough enough? The fact of the matter is they do expose people to radiation, expose the naked body and with indentations from invisible garments.........{#emotions_dlg.puking}

 

If the intellegence had been used, many in the 911 group would have been caught, and the crotch bomber would not have even been on an airplane.

 

I strongly object to this thing....then have we even looked at who would get the contract$$$$ to provide them to airports?.............and they are not really that accurate anyway.

full scan failure

 

"Then there´s the awkward bit: While these things do certainly reveal your weapons...they also reveal your body. In detail. Down to the furry bits. And, given that they´re going to have to be human-operated (with some computer assistance, for sure, but still man-in-the-loop) like the baggage machines, that means you´re effectively going to be taking your clothes off for a TSA guy/gal (and how long before there´s a law suit about there being no TSA girls on duty to scan women for a particular flight?) Yup--that´s a stranger, a government employee. And one who´s almost certainly empowered to arrange for you to be thrown in jail if you object or are, in these stupidly super-sensitive times, deemed as being "uncooperative.""

 

 

 

Quoting barba_mama

 

 

 They are moaning. The body scan is first checked by a computer. Only when the computer notices something that is out of the ordinary, a human is called to check the person. If it´s a woman who´s scanned, a woman will check her. If it´s a man who´s scanned, a man will check him.

In Islam it is not "forbidden" or something for a professional to see you naked. How else can you be checked by your doctor? And the scans don´t look like you are literally standing their naked. It´s not like porn or something. The image is strange looking, without colour.

Anyway, if I had to choose between a computer checking my image, or a woman touching my body, I choose the computer. I prefer people not touching my body like that! I think these people are moaning, since they already have the choice to say yes or no. Why make it a fatwa? Islam was formed as an open religion, that people by themselves could practice, without having to speak out a rule for every little thing. It always left room for people to make up their own minds.... and now... a fatwa on a body scanner, and a fatwa that needs a high level of critique in my opinion... it´s silly!

 

 



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4467.       catwoman
8933 posts
 15 Feb 2010 Mon 12:31 pm

I certainly mind as well, radiation and such invasion of privacy! Not only I´m sure there are better short term ways to deal with such situations, but also simply pull out of the rest of the world, stop killing people, use the military budget for healthcare and education, and there won´t be any terrorism to ´fight´.

4468.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 15 Feb 2010 Mon 04:03 pm

I also mind body scanners, not so much of a bother for me but I´d hate my child to be scanned like this. We all know that it´s usually people that account for abuse so how soon before naked body scans will be uploaded ont he internet? It makes my blood boil to think how risky it may be if the database gets in the hands of some lunatic...{#emotions_dlg.you_crazy}

4469.       Yersu
241 posts
 15 Feb 2010 Mon 07:14 pm

Can somebody explain to me why this is different than, say, letting a doctor see your naked body?

4470.       Trudy
7887 posts
 15 Feb 2010 Mon 07:25 pm

 

Quoting Yersu

Can somebody explain to me why this is different than, say, letting a doctor see your naked body?

 

The doctor I can choose myself, I even can insist to take X-rays home with me. I don´t have these choices at a gate.

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