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19 Mar 2008 Wed 04:35 pm |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting KeithL: If you want me to show proof publically, I can. Easily. I think its a bad idea. Other than Girlee I dont see any resentment or residual hostility from last week. |
I think some people, including me, feel hurt by the accusations of being anti-Turkish and anti-Islam. I think we at least deserve an apology and we would expect the other side to also take responsibility for their share of accusations and insults. |
And I did apologize to you directly. More than once. I am a resonable human being.
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19 Mar 2008 Wed 04:37 pm |
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Quoting Daydreamer: GG, how about cooling down (that goes for everybody)? Let's turn over a new leaf and keep posting here in a polite manner. I don't think there's anything bad about making KeithL mod. So far he's been doing a good job so let's give him some credit... |
I agree with you daydreamer. I think making keith a mod was a very good idea. However, he has continued to make things personal against me because I posted his own comments. I would have hoped he could take his own advice about respect but that has not proven out to this point.
That said, I will no longer comment on keith out of respect for everyone else.
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19 Mar 2008 Wed 04:37 pm |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting KeithL: If you want me to show proof publically, I can. Easily. I think its a bad idea. Other than Girlee I dont see any resentment or residual hostility from last week. |
I think some people, including me, feel hurt by the accusations of being anti-Turkish and anti-Islam. I think we at least deserve an apology and we would expect the other side to also take responsibility for their share of accusations and insults. |
It would be nice if those anti-words were called back but I don't think it's gonna happen. I believe it's time we stopped picking on each other for what happened here in the forums in the past. A change was introduced, let's keep to it. I don't think either side feels they did a bad thing so let's just forget it and focus on the future.
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19 Mar 2008 Wed 04:38 pm |
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Quoting girleegirl: I agree with you daydreamer. I think making keith a mod was a very good idea. However, he has continued to make things personal against me because I posted his own comments. |
I agree that there seems to be some resentment lingering there... I hope you can resolve this between each other.
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19 Mar 2008 Wed 04:41 pm |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting girleegirl: I agree with you daydreamer. I think making keith a mod was a very good idea. However, he has continued to make things personal against me because I posted his own comments. |
I agree that there seems to be some resentment lingering there... I hope you can resolve this between each other. |
+1
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19 Mar 2008 Wed 06:51 pm |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting girleegirl: Quoting karpusqueen:
I think it's important that members are able to voice their opinions to Admin/Moderators in private so that they can keep their political/religious standpoint private. Many people on the site don't mind others knowing this information but some people do and have worked hard to keep it private. I hope members will agree that everyone should have the right to give their examples, if they have them, in confidence. |
If you are referring to people being asked to give examples of anti-Islam statements, I believe the onus is on those who very publicly made those accusations to back up their statements just as publicly.
No one has said that everyone has to give examples and no one has been told they have to declare their religious affiliations.
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She is clearly referring to alameda here. It's ridiculous to say that people don't have to publicly give examples of things they are publicly complaining about all the time and making accusations. |
No, I'm not clearly referring to Alameda. Whilst I may agree with her on some issues, her activity on TC is her own affair. I don't believe I'm being ridiculous either. It seems that voicing opinions or facts (whatever their view point) publicly in the past has, naturally, led to members wishing to respond and in many instances the threads ended up resembling a bun fight (I've thrown a few cream buns myself and had a few in the eye  ).
I really do feel that members should have the right to voice their opinions in private if that is their wish. There are many members who do not participate in the debates but they do read them and are affected by them. I know this because several have discussed it with me and actually some of them don't visit the site much now or have left because of it. They are people from all cultural backgrounds and I should imagine they are not the only ones who have felt this way.
The rules state that if members have a complaint they should take it to the Admin/Moderators in order to avoid further conflict. I view the issue we are discussing now in a similar way. Of course if they still do not come forward then they have lost the opportunity to help the site to evolve in the manner they wish.
It doesn't matter what anyone says on this matter, nobody appears to be won over to another's point of view, nor should they feel they have to be. Opinions have been stated, let's simply agree to differ. 
Now . . . I'm off to see my new grandson . . . Born today, a very special day indeed for more than one reason. 10lb 8oz !!!! Ouch!!
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19 Mar 2008 Wed 07:03 pm |
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Peace Train, then why are you and your friends constantly complaining that there's something wrong with the web site if you know that you cannot publicly state your reasons! Why haven't you simply pm'd admin or a mod for that as well? This is really beyond me!
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19 Mar 2008 Wed 07:20 pm |
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Quoting catwoman:
I agree that there seems to be some resentment lingering there... I hope you can resolve this between each other. |
+10000 I hope so too 
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19 Mar 2008 Wed 07:43 pm |
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I saw members who insulted the prophet of Islam here and some other making fun including moderator also and as expected nothing happened to them. Same disrespectful behaviour applied to founder of Turkish Republic.
Btw what happened to provecateur of this site? it seems she was deleted and reason “users request†(who did she insult this time? Admin?) but adonis deleted and reason“personal attacksâ€.
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19 Mar 2008 Wed 08:49 pm |
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Quoting girleegirl: However, he has continued to make things personal against me because I posted his own comments. |
I think this is just bull. My issues with the site, I made very clear and very direct. Girleegirl, you were not in my sites at all. You are the one who chose to attack me in the forums for my opinions. This was your choice to enter the fray. You think I owe you an apology for defending myself to you?
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19 Mar 2008 Wed 09:00 pm |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting KeithL: who did I villify? |
Oh, I think Girleegirl is talking about your statements that this site is anti-Turkish and anti-Islam, but never showed any proof... |
I didn't think it was necessary to back track but if a few of you do not see my point, I will outline three instances. I do this from memory, I don't even need to search for the details.
thread 1, the afgan islam thread that is still going on started by aenigma.
thread 2, the muslim in the british police thread
thread 3, the muslim girl in Canada that was banned from a soccer tournament because she covers.
These 3 threads all share a common theme. They were posted to show the "backward image" of islam.
They were not there to educate, inform or provoke thought. Why do some people feel the need to find articles on the web that portray islam and islamic people in a bad way, and feel the need to post it here? Turkey is a 99.9% muslim country. If we were in the home of a turkish family, would it be kind to bring up this kind of discussion? Or would it be considered rude? This is my point.
I think a good rule of thumb is to not start a thread that you would feel uncomfortable discussing at the home of a traditional turkish family. Treat this site like someone's home where we are guests. And that means show respect.
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